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Notice: Transact Websocket Connectivity Issue

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[2019-09-13 02:29:01]
U_winks - Posts: 190
Don't be tricked by Transact or Infinity Futures into updating to v1986 and above. Their websocket connection is still useless.

User Crtfyd did that and encountered this problem, which SC Support confirmed:

The Transact websocket connection does not provide market depth data. Only the top of book. But you should still see bars based on the top of book. We are looking into this now.

NO BID ASK | Post: 191752

Ok we looked into this, the problem is the new Transact websocket data feed does not even provide best bid and ask size data either.

NO BID ASK | Post: 191759


Stick to v1941 for the time being, as advised by Transact staff themselves:

FYI: Just got off phone with Transact. He had me revert back to version 1941 (last one to work before new socket) and Bid/Ask works fine. He said first time he's heard of it. He said stay on this version until further notice. So you guys can do your stuff wherever the problem may be.

Reference thread: NO BID ASK
[2019-09-13 04:49:55]
Marmany - Posts: 303
Been with TransAct since PFG went bust in 2012, no problems until they launched their own charting program 4 months ago. This was of no interest as it does not yet have auto trading. In my opinion they are discouraging auto trading from Sierra users. Put that idea to one of their Customer Service people a couple of weeks ago. He slammed the phone down on me.
Have switched to Dorman, the TTfix link works very well.
[2019-09-13 06:40:37]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Put that idea to one of their Customer Service people a couple of weeks ago. He slammed the phone down on me.
This could be just because they do not want to provide any technical support related to this.

And it is not any different, when we say things like this in regards to telephone support on our website:
Often questions involve fees and costs for external services and especially questions about exchange fees. We do not earn any money these fees and costs. Furthermore, the rules surrounding exchange fees are illogical, confusing and unfair to put it kindly. It is not proper for us to be spending time on the telephone at our expense and time answering questions about things that we do not control and that we earn no money from. It simply is not worth our time and we have no interest in this whatsoever. If we would get a question like this is from an open phone line, which you are not paying for at 50 USD per hour, we would hang up the phone promptly on you. We have zero tolerance for these types of questions. This particular item ranks near the top as to one of the reasons we will not provide an open telephone line.

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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-13 06:41:28
[2019-09-13 12:26:01]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
So you know we are in close contact with top people at Transact and no one is rude to us and they are ready for us to test again with their revised websocket trading interface which we will today.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-13 15:07:25
[2019-09-13 14:55:52]
Meklon - Posts: 217
while Transact ... and taking other side of the loosing position (which by the way is illegal).

Support,

There was a post this morning applied to this thread using my account that made some presumptuous accusations against Transact. Specifically about them "taking other side" of their customers trades. I suspect there is a possible identity theft happening and someone have gained access to my credentials. I was able to delete the post as it was linked to my account and have opened an account support ticket to address this problem.

For the record: I have not made that post and had no intention of making one. I have also changed the password to my account.

Please let me know what other steps can be taken to prevent this from happening again.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-13 15:12:07
[2019-09-13 15:04:49]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Changing the password is important. We also need to see how to log out any other user who is using your account on this board. We will check on that.

For your information, the IP of that post above, that you did not make is from New Jersey.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-13 15:05:37
[2019-09-13 15:10:41]
Meklon - Posts: 217
Thank you for looking into this. Hopefully changing the password to a much stronger one will be sufficient.
[2019-09-18 16:18:12]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Transact is now supporting Trading through their websocket connection for Simulated Live and Demo. You will need to run Sierra Chart prerelease version 1989 for proper support for this. Some issues were resolved. Update with Help >> Download Prerelease.

This has been thoroughly tested by Sierra Chart and also Transact has done testing.

Live trading is currently not supported, only simulated trading using the Simulated Live connection or demo connection. Live trading will come soon.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-18 16:18:31
[2019-09-19 13:36:37]
User358559 - Posts: 15
Seems to work well but SC Dom does not show market depth levels
[2019-09-19 13:54:46]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Yes we will remind them about the market depth data now.
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[2019-09-19 14:04:02]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Regarding Market Depth data on the websocket connection this was their response:
We are looking into adding the depth. I do not have a timeline.

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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-19 14:04:09
[2019-09-19 18:51:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Letting you know, that Transact has added best bid size and ask size fields to their websocket data feed and that will be out in a day or two. It will need a new version of Sierra Chart which we may release this evening or tomorrow.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-19 18:51:25
[2019-09-23 10:58:18]
User90125 - Posts: 715
Is this available in prerelease 1991?
[2019-09-23 11:00:50]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Yes.
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[2019-09-24 18:58:09]
User63632 - Posts: 43
v 1991 not showing orders/order fills on charts with transact bridge. Market depth on SC dome not yet working yet
[2019-09-25 09:26:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
In regards to post #91, make sure there is no checkmark by Trade >> Trade Simulation Mode. More information is here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/TransAct.php#Trading

We know about the depth limitation. That will be available next week.
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[2019-09-29 15:34:11]
User316362 - Posts: 210
Have the issues with TransAct been resolved yet? Anyone?

I last tried v1991. I tested with TransAct support on trading from the charts. They claimed that the order price being passed from Sierra was incorrect and shut off trading.
I believe subsequently that Sierra corrected this problem.

However, I have not tested with them since. They kept saying everything was working from their side.

In any case, I have two questions;

1. Is live trading from the charts working with TransAct now?
2. If so, are the orders also reflected in the TransAct DOM (Ladder) at the same time as it was with the old TransAct Bridge (v 1941)?

Anyone?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-29 16:15:34
[2019-09-29 17:27:49]
User90125 - Posts: 715
I noticed this reply from SC Engineering on an unrelated issue: FO Futures Contracts Are NOT 2020 Ones | Post: 193028

you need to update Sierra Chart to the latest version and that latest version does support trading with Transact. Instructions:
Software Download: Fast Update

So there is no problem with updating and you are far better off. The websocket connection at this point in time is far more reliable than the bridge.

I tried it out on a fresh install of v1991 on one of my dev laptops. Worked like a charm, with one major exception.

1. Trading from the chart worked as expected. Still no market depth data on the Chart/Trade DOM though.
2. Orders showed up at the same time on the open Transact DOM, just like it did with the legacy AT bridge.

However...

3. Subscription to symbols listed in the Quoteboard and/or Intraday File Update List (IFUL) in v1991 is patchy, at best,
unlike the old TA Bridge in v1941.

Regardless of how many symbols are listed in the Quoteboard and IFUL, I'd expect all those symbols to be subscribed as available, and actively reporting data during market hours.
This currently is not the case with websocket connection in v1991.

In fact, it is the one remaining issue (aside from the promised market depth data on the DOM),
that SC and Transact should fully address before certifying the new websocket connection as ready for primetime.

During market hours, the attached Quoteboard works as intended in v1941 (with the old TA bridge).
Not so in v1991, as the websocket doesn't subscribe and populate all of the active symbols for whatever reason.
In fact, one has to disconnect and reconnect the data feed several times, in the hope that the websocket connection will FULLY populate the Quoteboard with all of the working symbols with active data.

Perhaps SC Engineering could take a closer look at this issue with Transact so that users of the older TA bridge in v1941 can finally migrate to the current versions of SC once and for all.
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[2019-09-30 11:32:02]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
They claimed that the order price being passed from Sierra was incorrect and shut off trading.
I believe subsequently that Sierra corrected this problem.

However, I have not tested with them since. They kept saying everything was working from their side.

In any case, I have two questions;

1. Is live trading from the charts working with TransAct now?
2. If so, are the orders also reflected in the TransAct DOM (Ladder) at the same time as it was with the old TransAct Bridge (v 1941)?
Yes, this is resolved and working properly. The problem was that Transact uses integers for order prices and market data and those represent the number of ticks. So to translate these values to the true floating-point value, requires the use of a multiplier. This multiplier was at the default value of 1 when using one of the Sierra Chart data feeds. This was the reason for the order price issue. It is resolved in 1991.

In regards to post # 94, we definitely see this as an issue on the Transact side. And also 1993 will support market depth from Transact.
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[2019-09-30 12:33:41]
User90125 - Posts: 715
we definitely see this as an issue on the Transact side. And also 1993 will support market depth from Transact.

Perhaps, if you haven't already, you could relay the issue with subscribing to all active symbols in the QuoteBoard to Transact.

I will load a current copy of v1993 on a dev box and see what the impact of the changes are vis-a-vis market depth data from Transact in the SC chart/trade DOM.

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Also just received this in the message log for v1991 64-bit (bulid 28578M)

Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.416
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.418
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.558
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.590
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.611
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.638
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.669
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.688
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.845
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.848
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:02.994
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:03.351
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:03.352
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:03.494
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:03.640
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:03.650
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:03.783
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:03.935
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:03.947
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.124
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.137
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.139
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 122936 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.298
TransAct WS | Received frame with length 122926 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.298
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.313
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.313
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.335
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.486
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.493
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.633
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.653
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.820
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:04.962
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:05.116
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:05.286
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 84480 | 2019-09-30 07:41:05.437
TransAct WS | Received frame with length 84470 | 2019-09-30 07:41:05.437
Received Date-time from server. Delay adjusted UTC Date-time: 2019-09-30 11:58:57.015. Round-trip delay: 00:00:00.245 | 2019-09-30 07:58:56.831
Computer time to server time difference: 00:00:00.184 | 2019-09-30 07:58:56.831
Successfully set the system Date-time to: 2019-09-30 11:58:57.015 UTC. | 2019-09-30 07:58:57.015
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:56.388
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:56.721
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:57.041
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:57.207
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:57.418
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:57.598
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:57.793
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:57.800
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:57.957
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:57.961
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.126
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.312
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.470
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.473
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.659
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.665
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.697
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.742
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.757
Price Websocket | Received frame with length 132959 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.921
TransAct WS | Received frame with length 132949 | 2019-09-30 08:13:58.921

Message log also sent for analysis. Thanks again for your support.
[2019-09-30 19:54:32]
User90125 - Posts: 715
So in v1993 with the Transact WS websocket connection, the Quoteboard now does not show the following fields at all (which worked previously in v1991):

Bid Ask BidSize AskSize BidAskSpread


Could you verify and let Transact know about it, since it seems to coincide with the release of Market Depth Data on the SC DOM.
[2019-09-30 21:32:59]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
In regards to post #96, contact Transact about this . They should be able to tell from their server-side what the issue is.

We will remove those messages. That is provides additional confirmation to us, that this problem with lost connections and websocket frame corruptions was definitively never on the Sierra Chart side. The corruption was coming from the Transact side. We did indicate that previously and that is with certainty.


In regards to post #97, that is something we need to take care of. That will be solved in the next release.
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[2019-10-01 14:33:04]
User358559 - Posts: 15
This morning v1993 (10 am EST) charts lagging in CL with Transact Dom. Changed to 1941 and now no lag even in quick moves. Any suggestions
[2019-10-01 14:43:16]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
No suggestions from our side. Transact will need to resolve.
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https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

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