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Date/Time: Sun, 28 Apr 2024 17:32:23 +0000



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[2024-03-21 16:17:15]
karohm - Posts: 128
I was trying out the new Telegram alert, was successfully able to do it, but I have now ran into a different problem related to it.

So every time I cancel an order where I had the same alert play as I as I had when I was trying out the telegram alert, it would open the chat window and redirect to my telegram. I was in the midst of trading and it was pissing me off , so i deleted the chat group and undoed the other settings in alerts but still the problem hasnt solved, the chat windows still opens on order cancellation (i.e alert trigger). I tried to change the alert number for order cancellation alerts, but didnt work.

And this is what it says in message log :

2024-03-21 12:23:34.111 | Chat | Message response. Chat ID: 176. Request ID: 666666831. Error: User (308917) does not have access rights to post messages to chat: 176 *


And the message log opens too, when I cancel the order along with the chat window
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-03-21 16:25:43
[2024-03-21 17:13:51]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31159
Select "Global Settings >> General Settings >> Alerts".

On that page set the option for "Chat Identifier or Chat Name for Alerts" to be blank (i.e. remove anything that you have in this field.

Also, for each Alert that you may have setup the notification to the Chat, be sure to select the Alert number at the top of the page and then set the option for "Send Alert as Chat Message When this Alert is Triggered" to "No".

Select OK to close the window when this is all done.

This should resolve your issues.
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[2024-03-21 17:33:42]
karohm - Posts: 128
I already removed the chat identifier.

Send Alert as Chat Message When this Alert is Triggered is also set to No.

It still keeps on persisting.
[2024-03-21 17:44:32]
karohm - Posts: 128
something is really wrong. Can i go back to how my SC was before ?
[2024-03-21 18:40:00]
karohm - Posts: 128
I had a backup of version 2603, I replaced it with my current version 2621 where i was having the problem . Ran 2603 the issue didnt appear.

Now i am trying to update to 2621 but its saying md5 for file doesnt match
[2024-03-21 19:36:00]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31159
Are you running Sierra Chart in a Windows emulator on a Mac or Linux system? This would be a reason for getting the MD5 error.

In either case, a solution is to use our Zip Installer. Refer to the following:
Software Download: Sierra Chart Zip Installer
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[2024-03-21 19:45:01]
karohm - Posts: 128
Nope. Its a windows computer.

I tried to fresh install SC from the installer too. Even then it gave me the md5 error.

I will try the zip file when i get a chance

I am so annoyed and regret to try the telegram alerts :/
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-03-21 19:47:24
[2024-03-22 15:32:47]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14121
If you do this, this absolutely will stop alerts to the chat. There is no other possibility:
On that page set the option for "Chat Identifier or Chat Name for Alerts" to be blank (i.e. remove anything that you have in this field.

We see that you are using sub instances of Sierra Chart. So in Global Settings >> General Settings>> Alerts in the sub instances and main instance, set this setting to zero or blank. This absolutely will stop the alerts to the chat.

The issues you are having are not related to this:

I am so annoyed and regret to try the telegram alerts :/


If you are still having an MD5 comparison error use the zip installer:
Software Download: Sierra Chart Zip Installer

Not sure why you would have such problem.
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[2024-03-22 15:52:49]
karohm - Posts: 128
I just was gonna write here : "It was a pain in the ass to set up my SC again to how it was"

Believe me, I wouldnt be annoyed for no reason.

In all the sub instances Chat identifier was removed and send alert as chat msg set to No.

I was so pissed despite removing everything from alert settings, even changed alert sound number for order cancellation, not just that i set it to no alert sound on order cancellation. The alert still rang and the chat window still opened.

The reason for this i am thinking is because i straight away first deleted the chat group without disabling send alert to telegram. I could be wrong but idk.
[2024-03-22 21:00:20]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14121
Did you completely delete the Sierra Chart installation? You did not need to do that and we did not specify that.

There are also backups of all of your Sierra Chart files in the Backups subfolder of the Sierra Chart installation. There are backups of Chartbooks, spreadsheets and the global configuration in that folder. With the files in that folder you will not lose anything and do not have to do any reconfiguration.

We are definitely confirming after a code review, that when this setting is set to blank or 0, there is no possibility of an Alert Message being sent to the chat.:
General Settings Window: Chat Identifier or Chat Name for Alert (Global Settings >> General Settings >> Alerts >> Notification)

You must have missed that setting somewhere. And it is just a single setting. It is not one that is connected with a particular Alert number requiring you to select specific Alert Number first.

Even if there were a lot of messages queued up to be sent, they would all be sent at once. But maybe on the telegram side they were just being delayed. Maybe there was a situation where there were hundreds of messages to be sent and they took some time to go through. That is the only scenario we can think of where setting that number to zero would not stop messages already queued.

No this does not matter:
The reason for this i am thinking is because i straight away first deleted the chat group without disabling send alert to telegram.

Once the chat is gone, it is gone and not capable of being sent to.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-03-22 21:04:51
[2024-03-23 04:59:28]
karohm - Posts: 128
Did you completely delete the Sierra Chart installation? You did not need to do that and we did not specify that.

I did not completely delete it. But the backup that I had did not have all my latest settings. And the installer failed on me three times.

For every Alert number I was changing to : send as a chat message was set to No

And in the notifications tab : Chat identifier or Chat Name for Alerts was removed and made it blank

This was done in all instances.

Every time I would cancel an order the chat window would be -> I would recheck this setting every time and everything looked ok like above. this was pissing me off.

You can see in post #1 , even in the message log that it was trying to send the msg to that group. Despite the group being deleted.


I think it could be related to recent fix youll made.
[2024-03-23 09:56:06]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14121
There is a "Backups" folder that has all of the latest Chartbooks and global settings:
But the backup that I had did not have all my latest settings.

There is not a possibility for you to lose your latest settings. Refer to:
Chartbooks (Workspaces): Accessing a Backup Chartbook File
Restoring Backup Global Configuration File

No it is not related at all:

I think it could be related to recent fix youll made.

That we are 1000% certain of.

We are 100% reaffirming, that it is fully impossible for an alert to be sent to the chat if this setting is 0 or blank:
General Settings Window: Chat Identifier or Chat Name for Alert (Global Settings >> General Settings >> Alerts >> Notification)

Therefore, there must have been some configuration you were unaware of, and we are certain of that, causing Alert notifications to be sent to the chat. The configuration must have existed for a particular Alert Number being used, and a nonzero Chat Identifier for Alert specified, in a particular instance being used if messages were actively being sent to the chat, and not previously queued messages. There simply is no other possibility. None.

This has consistently been the case. And there have been no changes with this at all including in the most recent release. Nothing. And this is one reason we no longer maintain the What is New page and describe what we are doing because users misinterpret it.

It does not matter, if the Chat Group is deleted. If the Alert Number is configured to send to the chat and there is a Chat ID specified, then it will be sent to the chat whether it is deleted or not:
You can see in post #1 , even in the message log that it was trying to send the msg to that group. Despite the group being deleted.

The only explanation for the MD5 error during installation, is that data was getting corrupted during the network connection. And that is something that should never really occur.

We only see a problem like that when people are using Wine.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-03-24 01:11:51
[2024-03-23 10:54:46]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14121
One setting to be aware of is this:
General Settings Window: Always Copy Configuration Files to New Instances When Started (Global Settings >> General Settings >> General >> New Instances)

Therefore, when using this setting, any changes to Alert Settings on the main instance is going to be propagated to sub instances.

Since live order activity is retransmitted to sub instances, there will be more alerts generated.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-03-23 10:55:06

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