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| [2019-09-08 17:45:06] |
| User415396 - Posts: 6 |
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Is it possible to trade two accounts at the same time and place trades simultaneously for both?
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| [2019-09-09 06:26:28] |
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Yes this is explained here: Order Allocation to Trade Accounts Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2019-09-09 23:13:10] |
| User415396 - Posts: 6 |
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That only works for simulated accounts? I would have two accounts with different brokers with both going through Rithmic as the data feed. Is this still possible?
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| [2019-09-10 08:30:28] |
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It is supported for live trading and we will make sure the documentation makes that clear. Support for this feature with different brokers is not supported with Rithmic but it is supported with this service: Sierra Chart / Trading Technologies Futures Order Routing Service Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-10 08:31:18
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| [2021-02-23 17:03:25] |
| Nkrastins - Posts: 34 |
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Hey, is it possible to trade different instruments at the same time? For example. I trade Micro Nasdaq contract, and at the same time, on the other account regular Nasdaq contract will be executed? Thanks |
| [2021-02-23 17:35:36] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 31159 |
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No. As the documentation states, the Order Allocation to Trade Accounts only makes exact duplicates of trades.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2021-03-09 10:50:57] |
| Angelo Imstepf - Posts: 15 |
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Hi, if i may ask a question too about this. In my office i have 2 computers, both with sierra chart on it. on one i trade in sim & on the other i do the evalutation for OneUp trader to get a funded account. If i want to trade simultaneously on the other Pc for a funded account on Topstep, does this work or do i have to buy an additonal software? i want to make specific, that a trade both of them at the same time, not in sim, not after each other. Thanks & Greetings |
| [2021-03-09 13:25:43] |
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You just need one Sierra Chart account, but you do need to submit the orders separately to each separate trading service.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2021-03-20 23:44:29] |
| TriStar Trading - Posts: 113 |
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Nkrastins - I will be doing Order Allocation soon. I have not set it up yet however. I will be testing this setup: The main account will be ES, the duplicate trade account will be ES but with the Chart Settings/Trade and Current Quote Symbol set to MES as I would like to trade the micro in the second account. I don't know if this will work or not. I'm thinking the duplicate trade bypasses any charts set up with the duplicate trade symbol (in my case the MES), but we will see soon. On a separate note, I think a really nice feature functionality would be to allow differing amounts of contracts on the duplicate. At first glance it would seem a relatively easy mod as I would have to think a contract quantity is being passed in the trade duplication as it sits right now. Mike
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-03-20 23:47:01
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| [2021-03-22 15:09:12] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 31159 |
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The main account will be ES, the duplicate trade account will be ES but with the Chart Settings/Trade and Current Quote Symbol set to MES as I would like to trade the micro in the second account. I don't know if this will work or not.
The Order Allocation to Trade Accounts does NOT support what you are proposing in the above. It just does an exact copy of an order. Refer to the following: Order Allocation to Trade Accounts For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2021-05-10 10:03:34] |
| Shores2021 - Posts: 26 |
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Hi, To the above thread; I am trying to send 2 same strategies from spreadsheet system to 2 separate trading services from the same Sierra Chart instance? Another words how to send same orders for same instrument to 2 different trading services? Do I need to have 2 separate spreadsheets with different services associated? Not sure how to accomplish that. Thank you, |
| [2021-05-10 18:16:46] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 31159 |
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This is not supported. The closest you can come is to have 2 installations of Sierra Chart with the same strategies running, so they will both kick off at the same time. Refer to the following: Using Multiple Data and Trading Services at the Same Time For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-05-10 18:17:06
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| [2021-05-10 22:13:30] |
| Shores2021 - Posts: 26 |
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Thank you John, So to be clear, If I want to send orders to 2 different trading services (for 2 different accounts at 2 FCM's); You mentioned above: "The closest you can come is to have 2 installations of Sierra Chart with the same strategies running, so they will both kick off at the same time" I read the Multiple Services link, and I understand that I do not install/run 2 different SC installations but rather use another "Instance" from the main SC. It opened up, but it seems to be automatically connected to the main SC trading service, and hence I can't seem to be able to modify the trading services on the instance window, hence I can't send orders to another trading service(?). Is there a setting within the instance where I can do it, or did I misunderstand you and I have to "run" 2 totally separate installations of SC on my machine and open 2 totally separate SCs where I can modify trading services and hence send orders of the same strategy to 2 different accounts? If the later is the case, how can I open 2 SCs on my machine, other then the second instant? Thank you very much and sorry if I sound confused with probably simple task. Many thanks. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-05-10 22:17:50
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| [2021-05-11 00:10:01] |
| SabikiSensei - Posts: 74 |
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@angelo I have purchased a program that does what you described. Contact onn@trade29.com and ask him for the trade replicator. The way I found it was through an old forum post asking for the same thing. No complaints about the program. It works as expected. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-05-11 00:10:22
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| [2021-05-11 01:19:03] |
| Shores2021 - Posts: 26 |
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@SabikiSensei, Thanks a lot. I will look into it. Regards |
| [2021-05-11 02:55:18] |
| Shores2021 - Posts: 26 |
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John, I realized that I could install a separate SC in a different folder and then run it fully independent of the first and hence be able to connect to 2 different trading services/accounts. Thank you and sorry for the confusion earlier. It's working like a charm and again such low CPU usage. Amazing how SC is built. Regards, |
| [2021-05-11 03:23:45] |
| Shores2021 - Posts: 26 |
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Also, Q1: is there a limit on how many separate instances of SC (installed in separate folders) can be run at the same time on the same machine? Q2: In general, when is it a good idea to run an "instance" of SC as part of an already opened SC version? Is it when connecting to the same trading service, but needed a set of different chartbooks and different symbols to be sent to the same? Thank you. |
| [2021-05-11 14:16:52] |
| bradh - Posts: 854 |
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Q1: is there a limit on how many separate instances of SC (installed in separate folders) can be run at the same time on the same machine?
None that I know of. One of the benefits of separate instances is they can run on different cores, so you are ultimately limited by your system hardware: cores, RAM, and speed. Q2: In general, when is it a good idea to run an "instance" of SC as part of an already opened SC version? Is it when connecting to the same trading service,
but needed a set of different chartbooks and different symbols to be sent to the same? Yes, but there is another reason why. Each instance allows only one chartbook to be displayed at any time. Having more instances lets you see more than one chartbook at once. |
| [2021-05-20 05:40:19] |
| Shores2021 - Posts: 26 |
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Thank you @bradh, Re: None that I know of. One of the benefits of separate instances is they can run on different cores, so you are ultimately limited by your system hardware: cores, RAM, and speed. Q: Do you know if there is a special way to distribute more instances of SC across different cores, or does the machine automatically distributes it when another SC instance is opened? Thank you very much. |
| [2021-05-20 12:07:57] |
| bradh - Posts: 854 |
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Q: Do you know if there is a special way to distribute more instances of SC across different cores, or does the machine automatically distributes it when another SC instance is opened?
Good question. There is a way with Windows 10 to assign what is called Processor Affinity after starting Sierra Chart. Check here: https://www.thewindowsclub.com/processor-affinity-windows I tried it with Windows 7, and it doesn't appear to work. |
| [2021-05-20 13:46:26] |
| Shores2021 - Posts: 26 |
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Thank you @bradh, Re: Q1: is there a limit on how many separate instances of SC (installed in separate folders) can be run at the same time on the same machine? None that I know of. One of the benefits of separate instances is they can run on different cores, so you are ultimately limited by your system hardware: cores, RAM, and speed. I tried to run 3 independent SC instances this morning, and although I was able to login, I wasn't receiving live data to the 3rd inctance. I had to close one of the 3 in order to get 2 instances to receive live data and connect to data/service provider. Q: Do you know if there is a limit of SC after 2 instances and maybe I need to pay extra for more logins? or does it have to do with live data limitations? I used 3 different and independent Data services such as Rithmic from 2 different sources as well as Gain Capital for the 3rd instance. Thank you. |
| [2021-05-20 16:03:50] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 31159 |
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WRT Post #21: What you are running into a data limitation, not the Sierra Chart software itself. The exchanges have the limitation of no more than 2 connections to same computer at the same time. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2021-05-26 22:09:12] |
| Shores2021 - Posts: 26 |
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John, So to clarify, it looks like currently I am setup on the basic (2 systems) option. So, in order to connect a 3rd (to run more SC independent instances to connect to more Data/Trade services) I would need to: Add 1 additional system under "additional systems" for a total of 3 systems for $12 extra/monthly, correct? I am only confused about where to enable the additional Denali Exchange in order to receive live data to my second machine (as per my current subscription)? The optional "additional systems" choices seems to be for the 3rd and 4th system and not the second. Thank you very much. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-05-26 22:30:42
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| [2021-05-27 02:01:31] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14111 |
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Before we answer anything in this regard or before doing anything regarding post #23 we are seeing if we can feed more than two installations of Sierra Chart on the same desktop with CME data.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2021-05-27 02:19:38] |
| TriStar Trading - Posts: 113 |
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Hey Gents - If this helps, I run two installations of SC on the same PC. I use Denali/TT and subscribe to CME top of book. I use the live trading connection for one and the SC all services for the other. No problems at all. I have also had both installations running under the live trading connection without issues I could tell. SC just has to download the different symbols for the live trading connection. They have the _FUT_ in the name. |
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