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[2019-08-31 14:41:53]
User35525 - Posts: 170
Ackin, why don't you share your ACSIL study source code?

What are you afraid of?

I'm afraid to download it without knowing what it does .............

Please just post your studies in normal .cpp form, to this forum, like everyone else.
[2019-08-31 15:33:28]
TedMar - Posts: 189
I'm afraid to download it without knowing what it does .............
@User35525 do u know what do Windows OS? u have Sorce Code from Bill?
[2019-08-31 15:51:29]
User35525 - Posts: 170
Free DLL download = dangerous
Free DLL download != FREE
[2019-08-31 16:02:04]
Ackin - Posts: 1841
User35525)
What are you afraid of?
I'm not afraid of anything, but I have no reason to give you anything. Sorry, but I don't want. Could you please respect my rules?

I'm afraid to download it without knowing what it does .............
I understand, You don't have to download anything...


post your studies in normal .cpp form, to this forum
NO! Do you know difference "Free" vs "opensource"???. I offer a free compiled library that is not opensource, I say in advance what I offer, and are you still attacking me because I didn't give you the source code? Why? I write 50 times that I don't want. You are a spammer at the sierrachart forum, you know my terms and conditions and either take it or leave it.

like everyone else
Who and where? There is a maximum of 300 attached CPPs from all users throughout the Sierra Chart Forum.

Free DLL download = dangerous
Free DLL download != FREE
Dangerous? Why?Just because you say that? ... crazy... that is no longer logic...

FREE dll = free as free of charge, Dll as compiled library not opensource


Source code = It's my personal know-how and I won't share it with anyone


I don't want to share .CPP and it's my choice. Sorry, I don't understand why I should. Someone doesn't force you to use it and you don't need my dlls for your work .... I'm not Sierrachart .... I'm creating it for free. These are my conditions. I understand your afraid, but the studies is used by more than 200 people and is growing every day. So I don't do it unnecessarily. I don't mind that you don't want to use it. Sorry.

And thank you for stopping spamming this thread and all Sierrachart forum.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-31 18:34:04
[2019-08-31 18:32:58]
User35525 - Posts: 170
I can understand VENDORS asking for account names, but I have a question.

IF you're giving away these indicator DLL's for FREE why do you still ask for the account name of paying Sierra Chart customers like myself? Is is it possible to brute-force attack our account login? and obtain our password? What about hiding code that uploads all our chartbooks and proprietary cpp, or installs cryptolocker or other malware?

It's just a matter of simple TRUST, and in this world one cannot be too careful.

I'd feel much safer if you posted your DLL's to the Sierra forum (if that's even allowed -- shudders) instead of your third-party Czech & Slovak forum.

If you want us to really trust you, you'd let us see the source code of these "basic and simple" (your words) indicators, as other legitimate traders do on this and other quality forums like Futures.io (many do that in the elite section on Futures.io, for paying users of that community). Sharing code here would get you more paying customers, if that's what you're after. I'd love to see 200, 300, or 400 new threads here discussing ACSIL or spreadsheet studies. People who share ACSIL are awesome, like Kiwi:
https://www.sierrachart.com/AdditionalFiles/UserContributedACS_SourceCode/Kiwi.cpp

It would also grow your business and people would love you for really sharing (teach a man to fish). You can also apply to be a Sierra Chart vendor. Are you on the vendor list here?
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SierraChartStudyAndSystemProgrammers.php

Speaking of that, only vendors should be allowed to remotely *shutdown* studies; does anyone really think free DLL's should qualify for that treatment? If you're worried about users running your studies with out-of-date versions of SC, couldn't you insert a terminator code subroutine, calling out to an external web API to return a list of deprecated SC versions and give the user an on-screen message alerting to upgrade SC? Or if that's too complex, isn't it possible to ask people to *subscribe* to an Ackin-indicator-upgrade thread, right here on this safe forum, to get email alerts whenever you post an "upgrade now please" alert? Really, it makes more sense to do that then to give away free DLL's and assume the burden to support those DLL's.

Just like on futures.io, there should be rules about vendor self-promotion within the SC forum, for the protection of SC users. It's just common sense that if you want us to trust you, you will act trustworthily: show us the "basic and simple" .cpp source code, and apply to be a vendor, since you sell indicators. Really simple. Anything else should make everyone's Spidey-Sense tingle.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-31 21:56:40
[2019-08-31 19:02:21]
Ackin - Posts: 1841
I can understand VENDORS asking for account names, but I have a question.
Ok

IF you're giving away these indicator DLL's for FREE why do you still ask for the account name of paying Sierra Chart customers like myself?
easy answer...protect my work

Share account name:
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=45009

and next:
It has happened to me in the past that I gave libraries without library protection and sierrachart modified the commands. The library was no longer stable in their other versions. I had no tool to turn it off remotely.

And the second case, one vendor took my library and sold it as part of his courses. Without account authorization I do not know who uses it. What's so incomprehensible about that?

Is it possible for you to brute-force attack our account login? and obtain our password?
But I wrote that I understand your concerns. It may look like that. So don't download anything if you think so. I respect you in this, but you also respect me.... my rules for sharing DLL = no source code...my rules...my code....you don't want to?....don't download it..... What are we discussing here?

It's just a matter of simple TRUST, and in this world one cannot be too careful.
Yes I agree

I'd feel much safer if you posted your DLL's to the Sierra forum (if that's even allowed -- shudders) instead of your third-party Czech & Slovak forum.
Do you want to know why am I doing this? Because for each indicator there is a discussion + there are other parallel indications. Can you imagine running 200,300,400 threads without much added value here on the Sierrachart Forum?

If you want us to rrally trust you, you'd let us see the source code of these "basic and simple" (your words) indicators, as other legitimate traders do on this and other quality forums like Futures.io. And you'd apply to be a Sierra Chart vendor.
But that's the joke. I'm not selling anything to you. I offer something for free and you scream that I don't give more

No, the List is full of invalid links, just a few works, why to be there for?
I'm here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=StudyStore

Just like on futures.io, there should be rules about vendor self-promotion within the SC forum, for the protection of SC users. It's just common sense that if you want us to trust you, you will act trustworthy: show us the "basic and simple" .cpp source code, or apply to be a vendor.
Big mike is a fantastic forum, but for Sierrachart users you won't find much source code there. Because nobody wants to send the open code. Do you want the same here?

Request from SCH forum: 90% of those requirements have not been resolved by anyone, then I did it. Most people are glad I solved their problem, and I'm sorry that you didn't understand the main idea.


Otherwise...I understand what you mean, but you're comparing incomparable. The forum you're talking about (Futures.io) is private. Sierrachart forum is a platform forum of product creator. Understand that this platform is growing in popularity and will grow more with studies. Why it should mind them? I help them. You don't even know how many customers wrote me that they switched from another platform just because they have some of my studies. Because it just isn't elsewhere.


Just like on futures.io, there should be rules about vendor self-promotion within the SC forum
also this is a promotion :)


btw to your "Free DLL download = dangerous"
My first post in this thread [2016-04-15 13:10:13]
301 downloads... DOM DLL - users without account name
Freedownload 1 DLL - 97 users with account name, next 176 users without account name from past
Freedownload 2 DLL - 25 users with account name, next 73 users without account name from past
I have the feeling that if anything was bad in libraries, someone would write here on SCH forum about it ... with so many users.
What you write is a pointless attack.

In other threads you write about ACSIL. So you can do programs too. Why don't you make it yourself? Or better ... why don't you do the same and do as many studies as I do at someone's request? Do it and I'll be glad. And I won't ask for the code because I appreciate your work.


Everyone has the opportunity to write me an email and solve for example individual approach or advise in their own code. If I know it I'll answer. But I don't have time to defend myself in this absurd thing. Last time I declare it is voluntary and you have no right to force me to anything just because you have a different opinion. Please respect my rules and conditions for using my own library.

You unnecessarily evoke flame.

And again...thank you for stopping spamming this thread and all Sierrachart forum.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-31 22:21:22
[2019-08-31 21:54:21]
User871277 - Posts: 34
@User35525

I did send you an invitation to have a private discussion.

Maybe you also check this first:
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=45056

Now I notice you are sceptic, I don't want to convince you, just understand.
Also learn about the possible risks you did mention.

So far, I can say I did make great gains using the free indicators from Ackin.

One question, why should Ackin be worse than google.
Don't you think if he wants to hack your account he would just do it?

Another question, when was the last time you did something for someone without greed or expectations?
Maybe you can provide me the Viatali Apirine Exponential Deviation Bands?
Would be nice, including the sources?
Also with the improvements you mentioned, upgrade, etc...

Now the ball is in your field, think about it, and kick it back to me.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-31 22:08:23
[2019-08-31 21:59:40]
Ackin - Posts: 1841
Speaking of that, only vendors should be allowed to remotely *shutdown* studies; I don't think free DLL's should qualify. If you're worried about users running your studies with out-of-date versions of SC, couldn't you insert a terminator code subroutine, calling out to an external web API to return a list of deprecated SC versions and give the user an on-screen message alerting to upgrade SC? Or if that's too hard, isn't it possible to ask people to *subscribe* to an SC-indicator-upgrade thread to get email alerts whenever you post an "upgrade now please" alert?

I agree .... but this is too complicated process ... maybe it's solvable but I don't know how. I create these studies in my free time, I do programming from a completely different area, but also C ++. I don't want to create another interface and complicate it to me.

I don't know if you know:
ad 1)
"I'd feel much safer if you posted your DLL's to the Sierra forum"
thanks to the account name I can send the library directly to the user every time I upgrade, standardly I don't do it - only at the user's request ....
But it is only a matter of agreement, just ask and I have no reason don't satisfy this request.

For example, there was a big problem last time, with "Transact users". If I did that by sending them updates directly to the their PC they are all without my studies because the last functional version of SCH for them was 1941. A compiled library under 1979 wouldn't work for them.

ad 2) Account name is the only way to protect the library from uncontrolled distribution everywhere. I will be happy if Sierra makes Accountname2 which will not serve as a login but will function as a unique ID as Account name1. Then this whole discussion of abuse your account would be pointless.

Suggest it to them. I'll vote immediately for this too.

 I'd love to see 200, 300, or 400 new threads here discussing ACSIL or spreadsheet studies (granted by "basic and simple" but growing community). It would also grow your business and people would love you for really sharing. You can also apply to the Sierra Chart vendor.

Not about it. Rather 200,300,400 threads about how to improve the study, change it, or suggest how to use it .... but it's still about the study I created. Why should it spam a forum that has xy thousand people when only a few people use this study It's a normal filter.

Sierrachart forum should be mainly technical and especially support forum for their excellent product, when there will be a lot of spam, so if someone has a real problem, they will wait very long for a reply. Threads should be like: "DOM doesn't work or my chartbook freezes". Really ... here is a support forum.
[2019-08-31 22:01:04]
User871277 - Posts: 34
Speaking of that, only vendors should be allowed to remotely *shutdown* studies; I don't think free DLL's should qualify. If you're worried about users running your studies with out-of-date versions of SC, couldn't you insert a terminator code subroutine, calling out to an external web API to return a list of deprecated SC versions and give the user an on-screen message alerting to upgrade SC? Or if that's too hard, isn't it possible to ask people to *subscribe* to an SC-indicator-upgrade thread to get email alerts whenever you post an "upgrade now please" alert?

Any external call could be hijacked either... actually even higher risk.

ad 2) Account name is the only way to protect the library from uncontrolled distribution everywhere. I will be happy if Sierra makes Accountname2 which will not serve as a login but will function as a unique ID as Account name1. Then this whole discussion of abuse your account would be pointless.

Suggest it to them. I'll vote immediately for this too.

Me too.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-31 22:04:09
[2019-08-31 22:13:43]
User871277 - Posts: 34
Free DLL download = dangerous
Free DLL download != FREE

From now on Ackin, charge a € per download, that takes the danger.
[2019-08-31 22:37:46]
User35525 - Posts: 170
Did I misunderstand something here, I thought all your free DLL's were "basic and simple" studies (your words from above post #12):


Basic and simple studies are of course for free.

Then your above FAQ says the free ones are "not interesting":

Why are your studies free?

Studies which are not interesting for me I give free. This does not mean that these studies are not good. Every trader has a different style. They are studies on suggestion/request from the Sierrachart forum.


You talk about your clients in your various threads, but "free" indicators should be truly free. Giving away DLL's is as "free and safe" as "Microsoft Windows" preinstalled on a new PC. I appreciate your generosity, but don't trust a DLL from Microsoft either. If these are truly "not interesting", "basic", and "simple", then why are you only distributing them in DLL form? Can you ask Sierra if they will let you distribute free DLL's here on this user discussion forum? I'd be curious what the answer is. The whole point of me posting, is "Caveat emptor" should apply to "free stuff" too, when it sounds too good to be true.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-31 22:59:08
[2019-08-31 23:12:35]
Ackin - Posts: 1841
You talk about your clients in your various threads, but "free" indicators should be truly free
Where are you from? "Free DLL" is Free without payment (Czech republic). "Free" is a phrase... Studies are free without charging in the compiled DLL.

"Free dll" does not mean source code (that would be "Opensource", my library isn't opensource, Sorry if you so understand that ).

I appreciate your generosity, but don't trust a DLL from Microsoft either.
And what hinders do you make it yourself? If you want a c ++ course then use google.

then why are you only distributing them in DLL form?
Because I want. Is it forbidden?


Good night
[2019-08-31 23:23:23]
Chris_uk - Posts: 89
User35525, can you please stop spamming so many threads with the same question. I'm sure many of us would appreciate that.

Questioning another users integrity based on your own ideology is kind of rude and not very constructive, don't you think?
[2019-08-31 23:48:00]
User871277 - Posts: 34
Well said Chris_uk.

I get the feeling this is not about facts, looks to me like envy.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-31 23:48:18
[2019-08-31 23:51:05]
User35525 - Posts: 170
Okay Chris_uk, I won't post again. I know I'm not alone since I received anonymous "thank you's" above for trying to warn the forum.

Chris_uk, I'm sorry for trying to keep this forum from degrading like every other trader forum. I guess what I said "goes without saying" for those who already know. I just felt so horrible seeing several other people from other threads signup to Ackin's Czech & Slovak forum, a country that's very interested in malware and hacking, and wanted to warn people who aren't in the IT field to just "be careful".

User871277, you only have 19 posts and I'm always suspicious of new forum users like yourself. This wasn't about envy. I love the SC forum and hate to see people possibly scam'd. Like I said above, I'd be super curious to see if Sierra would allow Ackin to post his DLL's right here in this safe space. The answer is "no" I'm sure, and everyone knows the reason.

Oh Ackin, I do understand the difference between "Free DLL" and "open source". Btw, not all open code is open source. It could also be deemed "freeware", or in the "public commons" or "public domain". In any case, I will only use code I understand in my trading, from Kiwi and others here, or Big Mike's futures.io, or systems I pay for and am given the source code. That makes since for me. It's a free market though, so far, so everyone can do what they want.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-01 00:34:38
[2019-08-31 23:56:48]
User871277 - Posts: 34
Ackin's Czech & Slovak forum, a country that's very interested in malware and hacking

That is racism, I will add that to my complaint.
[2019-09-01 00:08:27]
Chris_uk - Posts: 89
User35525, not suggesting you stop posting. I just don't think it's necessary to spam so many threads, isn't that the kind of behaviour that 'degrades' forums?
[2019-09-01 00:12:36]
User35525 - Posts: 170
User871277, this is a safe space, and there is no racism here. Again, I don't think SC would allow posting Binary "blob" DLL's here in this forum - it's just not SAFE - so people should be careful to signup elsewhere., Anybody going to step up and defend me here?

I did some googling and it looks like the United States has twice the hacking/malware rates as the Eastern European-bordered countries. All I was hinting at was that several brands of anti-virus software originates from this region, more originating in the east than the west: http://viraltalks.com/list-of-top-pc-antivirus-by-their-origin-countries/p/

Russian traders rock btw, the best. I just happen to see so many vendors on every forum. If it's free, just make it free. Otherwise, if it's valuable to you, charge money for it, either way, post the DLL or code in this safe forum . Again, that's my last post. I can't help people who don't think the same way. Let's just agree to disagree and be nice. I should have taken my warning straight to SC instead of this forum. I just hoped this forum could do some self-policing like at futures.io. People had to be warned that it was a bad idea to download random DLL's.

I stand by what I said above:

Free DLL download = dangerous
Free DLL download != FREE


I don't really think "Big Mike" at futures.io would allow that. Too risky
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-01 00:44:38
[2019-09-01 00:57:44]
Chris_uk - Posts: 89
User35525,

Post number 5

https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=45056

Goodnight
[2019-09-01 01:12:17]
User35525 - Posts: 170
Thank you Chris_uk -- I stand corrected. We are all grow-ups here and the world doesn't need another babysitter . Ackin does this forum a lot of good and I was wrong and am sorry.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-01 01:30:08
[2019-09-24 01:09:03]
User940942 - Posts: 9
Ackin,

I tried to download the file using the link provided in the store by registering, not sure if it worked or not.

Is the best way to access through the shared download (option 2) for US based users?

Thanks in advance, and I think what you've put together is amazing!
[2019-09-24 07:13:49]
Ackin - Posts: 1841
User940942)
I apologize for the delay. My Timezone is UTC+01:00 ;)


Your account has been created. You can login to the forum.
[2019-09-30 14:55:47]
Ackin - Posts: 1841
Update/upgrade list September 2019 Custom Studies Store:
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=StudyStore&SCDLLName=zyp_download_free


Studies:
1) Number Bars: Unfinished auction - edit (added filter selection)
2) Price Momentum Oscillator - edit (added cross condition)
3) Ratio Daily HL/ATR
4) Text Display For Study (Percent from) - improved
5) Text Display For Study (Slope) - improved
6) Yesterday close bands
7) ZigZag reset alert


FAQ:
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?PostID=145974#P145974


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Czech & Slovak Forum
Free Studies (currently 140 studies) you can find on our forum in folder Update files (free1, free2)
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=StudyStore&SCDLLName=zyp_download_free
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-30 14:56:53
[2019-10-06 22:01:36]
Ackin - Posts: 1841
Update/upgrade list October 2019 Custom Studies Store:
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=StudyStore&SCDLLName=zyp_download_free


Updated studies:
Numbers Bars: Diagonal Imbalance
Numbers Bars: Difference Horizontal
Numbers Bars: Filtered POC
Numbers Bars: Highlights
Numbers Bars: Single Print at Extreme
Numbers Bars: Sum POC-HL
Numbers Bars: UA & POC
Numbers Bars: Unfinished auction
Numbers Bars: Value from range
Numbers Bars: Zero line


New studies:
1) "apply the SuperTrend Stop Study on the RSI study in chart region 2"
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=45944
Study: SuperTrend Stop Universal SG

2) Study: Woodies EMA with alerts

3) "build an alert based off of the Cumulative Last Size data as displayed on the DOM."
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=32160#P194708
Study:Depth - filtered sides (vertical sum of levels)
note: horizontal sum of levels solves "Strength Depth of Market meter"




FAQ:
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?PostID=145974#P145974



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Czech & Slovak Forum
Free Studies (currently 150 studies) you can find on our forum in folder Update files (free1, free2)
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=StudyStore&SCDLLName=zyp_download_free
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-01 11:01:06
imageSuper trend universal.png / V - Attached On 2019-10-06 23:40:44 UTC - Size: 27.12 KB - 1439 views
[2019-12-01 10:59:48]
Ackin - Posts: 1841
Update/upgrade list November 2019 Custom Studies Store:
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=StudyStore&SCDLLName=zyp_download_free


Updated studies:
Alert EMA cross T3 - edit (change/improve study setting )
Alert Stoch cross T3 - edit (change/improve study setting )
ATR channel - edit (change/improve study setting )
Automatic Line STOP (Flex renko) - edit (change/improve study setting )
Automatic Line STOP 2 (Universal - Renko chart) - edit (change/improve study setting )
Automatic Line STOP 3 (Universal - Renko chart) - edit (change/improve study setting )
Automatic Line STOP 4 (Universal - Renko chart) - edit (change/improve study setting )
Bollinger Bands MaxMin per period - edit (change/improve study setting )
Break BB - edit (change/improve study setting )
Coloring consecutive bars - edit (added until future line from Open, HL, fix for Renko, SG NoB, SG Direction)
Numbers Bars: Diagonal Difference Imbalance (Only Ask) - edit (change/improve study setting )
Numbers Bars: Diagonal Difference Imbalance (Only Bid) - edit (change/improve study setting )
Tab values - edit (added Index filter input)


New studies:
Numbers Bars: Difference Horizontal (Only Ask)
Numbers Bars: Difference Horizontal (Only Bid)
Numbers Bars: Diagonal Ratio Imbalance (Only Ask)
Numbers Bars: Diagonal Ratio Imbalance (Only Bid)


"I am trying to have my ATR indicator show on screen with a different colors when the new bar is 1.25 * ATR (for 14 bar periods)"
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=46477
Study: Average True Range - Colored)


















FAQ:
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?PostID=145974#P145974



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Czech & Slovak Forum
Free Studies (currently 150 studies) you can find on our forum in folder Update files (free1, free2)
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=StudyStore&SCDLLName=zyp_download_free
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-01 16:22:23
[2019-12-06 20:13:01]
User164131 - Posts: 19
Dear Ackin, does "DOM.dll" posted in the first message still works? I downloaded it, put to Data folder but when I click on "Add custom Study" there is no study with this name.

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