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PNL real time updates

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[2021-07-09 14:41:35]
User180814 - Posts: 45
Hello Sierra,
my PNL is not updating real time with live trades.
Can you check this out or give me a ring. I am available at 917-903-6520
I would also like to add commission into the pnl calculation.
Thanks,
Marc
[2021-07-09 16:59:47]
John - SC Support - Posts: 40605
Refer to the following and see if it answers your issue:
Help With Daily Profit/Loss Value

As to commissions, refer to the following:
Trade Activity Log: Use Commission
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-07-09 17:13:36]
User180814 - Posts: 45
Thanks,
The issue is in the trade monitor screen. That is connected to Dorman Trading. The Cash balance is not updating when live trades closed out. Can we work on this please.
Thanks,
Marc
[2021-07-09 17:36:02]
John - SC Support - Posts: 40605
Ok, yes, this is described here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SierraChartOrderRoutingServiceWithData.php#UnsupportedPositionAndAccountBalanceFields

This will be resolved with our Direct CME Connection. Refer to the information here:
Now Released: Upcoming CME Direct Routing
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-08-04 20:30:36]
TriStar Trading - Posts: 158
I was curious about this also. The Account Balance Text - External Service study also has a delay in it for I assume the same reasons as the new Trade Account Monitor window. I have written a custom study that I've been using for a while that I use for monitoring account balance and margin info etc. It does display the "linked" account balance but I also calculate the "real-time" balance using the formula Broker Day Begin Balance + todays closed trades + an active trade if there is one. Once a trade is closed eventually the "linked" balance from Dorman (or TT?) catches up to my calculated account balance. While a trade is active, I base may max quantity of contracts, so as not to trigger margin, on the real-time balance I am calculating assuming this is the balance that Dorman or TT has for me but has just not beamed it over yet. I have yet to get liquidated doing this.

I know SC supports user contributed studies and I would be willing to contribute this one. The other thing this study does is take into account whether NLV or EMR type margin formulas are in use for a particular instrument. In other words, MES uses NLV of $100 whereas ES uses 5% of CME initial margin (or 12100 * .05 = $605) for its margin requirement. So, It still takes $990 of equity to enter an ES but you have down to $605 per contract before liquidation. If MES used EMR the margin would be $60.50 but according to Stage5 Risk Desk they use $100 because this is how Dorman does it. Let me know if I can help.

lol - Just to have some wine with my cheese, it blows me away how day margins can be so different across firms. For instance, AMP uses $400 and $40 for ES and MES respectively, and the margin call is 80% loss of your days beginning balance. GFF through Advantage is at $660 and $66 last I checked. I haven't checked on their liquidation policy. I use Dorman through Stage5 and I have ES $990 and MES $100. Before you ask, I tried AMP but they don't seem to like LLC's.

Mike
[2021-10-12 02:04:45]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
At this point in time if your account is with Stage 5 we recommend they move you to the new direct order routing:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-11-18 03:45:29]
User379468 - Posts: 508
GFF through Advantage is at $660

Who is GFF through Advantage, and which brokers with SC Teton Routing support intraday margin?
[2021-11-18 15:14:39]
John - SC Support - Posts: 40605
For the Teton Direct Order Routing Service, the only supported brokers at the moment are Stage 5, Advantage, and Edge Clear.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-11-18 15:17:41
[2021-11-18 15:49:49]
TriStar Trading - Posts: 158
I don't think Stage5 has all their FCM's on this yet correct? I was told that Dorman was NOT set up for this.
[2021-11-18 16:23:26]
John - SC Support - Posts: 40605
Just Advantage with Stage 5 at this point.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

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