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Diagonal Delta option for Number Bars

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[2022-11-20 15:36:14] #1 [Go To First Post]
HeyUgly - Posts: 233
hello! I mentioned this awhile ago and was told you guys would look to add it to future releases, should be pretty easy and wanted to ask again, if possible to add a "diagonal Delta" option to number bars? i know there is a "askvol/bid Vol diagonal diff" but its not the same, if we could have a basic "diagonal delta" would be a very welcome option! that was we only see 1 number per vol multiplier bar vs a dual column like the "askvol bidVol diagonal difference" does. even a SxS delta would be welcome! or Both! i think this would be a very easy to add? Anyways thank you for reading this! hoping it can be added in the future

[2022-11-20 15:46:46] #2 [Go To First Post]
HeyUgly - Posts: 233
picture attached for reference


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[2022-11-20 22:48:18] #3 [Go To First Post]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14189
At each price level what is the calculation? We need this to be very very clear. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2022-11-20 23:28:19] #4 [Go To First Post]
HeyUgly - Posts: 233
You bet very easy Basically Delta equals difference between bid/ask vol, weather it be a + or - Here are a few examples in the picture attached. Sierra actually does it already , as you can see in the first picturei uploaded in the original post, i just want to know if we can Just have that first column in the first pic, and not the second column. You see how the first column, and my delta study are the same? if you could just tweak it to remove the secondary column would be an easy fix! anyways , i have attached pictures showing Side by Side delta, and a diagonal delta in relation to the number bars, very simple.


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[2022-11-21 16:20:05] #5 [Go To First Post]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14189
Ok we can add this. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-11-21 16:20:10

[2022-11-21 16:22:21] #6 [Go To First Post]
HeyUgly - Posts: 233
amazing!! TY!!!

[2022-11-21 18:52:00] #7 [Go To First Post]
ticinotrader - Posts: 378
Dear Support, Can you please mention this in the Log of Change/Improvement when it will be available? I am looking for this option for a long time ago as well. Thank you.

[2022-11-21 22:16:37] #8 [Go To First Post]
User262131 - Posts: 5
Hi, I would appreciate this feature as well, thank you! I am also wondering if that means difference diagonal will be in the drop down for background type as well as background coloring(just like you have it now for ask bid difference). Specifically settings that say this: Background Type: Right Aligned Ask Bid Difference Diagonal Profile Background Coloring Method: Based on AskVol BidVol Difference Diagonal - Actual This would be amazing too, Thanks!

[2022-11-30 04:25:45] #9 [Go To First Post]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14189
This will be out in the next release. A new Numbers Bars Text Type. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2023-01-06 05:31:17] #10 [Go To First Post]
yeungmat - Posts: 1
Hi. Just wanted to follow up on this thread, thank you for the update. are we able to add the functionality to create a profile of the diagonal delta. Currently there is only a profile of the bid/ask difference. I would appreciate if you could add a profile of the diagonal delta please. Thank you!

[2023-02-10 06:54:11] #11 [Go To First Post]
DjangoNY22 - Posts: 2
Is this function now already integrated? You said it´ll be a new Text Type for Numbers Bars, but i don´t really find it ? Still the 2 rows at diagonal comaprison ?

[2023-02-10 17:12:50] #12 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31334
There is a new Column n Numbers Bars Text selection called Ask Vol Bid Vol Diff Diagonal 1 Side. With this option you will see the Diagonal Difference for the Ask side (Diagonal Ask - Bid). For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2023-02-26 02:15:52] #13 [Go To First Post]
User24791 - Posts: 44
I see on my chart using Ask Vol Bid Vol Diff Diagonal 1 Side Negative deltas painted white color...Should they not be RED color?


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[2023-02-27 15:16:19] #14 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31334
It depends on your settings. Please get us your chart so we can take a look. Follow these instructions: Support Board Posting Information: Providing Chartbook with Only a Single Chart For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2023-02-27 19:10:15] #15 [Go To First Post]
User24791 - Posts: 44
I have attached Number Bars Chart book for review


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[2023-02-27 22:42:36] #16 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31334
The way you have this setup is that you are coloring the numbers in the first column based on Diagonal Dominant Ask Vol Bid Vol - Actual. As such, it is not the difference values that are being used, but the raw Bid and Ask values. In this particular case, whenever the Bid side is dominant and the actual Bid value is greater than 100, then the value will be colored red. Refer to the information for this setting here: Numbers Bars: Text Coloring Based On Diagonal Dominant AskVol BidVol - Actual So nothing is wrong, it is working properly. If this is not what you are wanting, then please describe what you want to have an we will see if there is a way to set it up (most likely there is an option for it already). For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2023-02-27 22:42:48

[2023-02-28 13:29:15] #17 [Go To First Post]
User24791 - Posts: 44
Hi John, Thanks for your response..Let me describe...Perhaps I am not using the proper setting, as there are many choices. So, I am currently using the Ask Vol Bid Vol Diff Diagonal 1 Side My understanding is that the diagonal dominant difference if negative number should paint RED (bid column) and if positive number paint WHITE (ask column). (note: number colors are my choice) Hopefully I am understanding this concept correctly and if so, what setting should be used? As I thought the Actual Diagonal Dominant was the proper choice. Blessings, David

[2023-02-28 17:41:06] #18 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31334
There is not a way to do exactly what you are stating. But we wonder if you are really wanting to display the Ask Vol Bid Vol Diff Diagonal 1 Side. In this particular option, you are always viewing the Bid Side Diagonal Difference Calculation. This does not mean that a positive value is Ask Dominant or that a negative value is Bid Dominant, as it is just displaying the Next Higher Ask minus the Bid. It is not showing anything related to dominance. If you let us know what you are wanting to see, again, we can help you determine what is the best option. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2023-03-02 00:27:07] #19 [Go To First Post]
User24791 - Posts: 44
Hi John, So based on your response, the Ask Vol Bid Vol Diff Diagonal 1 Side selection is not what I am looking for. I am looking for what you describe: "positive value is Ask Dominant or that a negative value is Bid Dominant" By way of example #1: Bid Value:200 Ask Value:100 IF (Diagonal Ask Vol - Diagonal Bid Vol) THEN, Net Diagonal Difference = -100 This net Diagonal Difference value being negative would be displayed as -100 (RED) in a single value column. By way of example #2: Bid Value:150 Ask Value:300 IF (Diagonal Ask Vol - Diagonal Bid Vol) THEN, Net Diagonal Difference = +150 This net Diagonal Difference value being positive would be displayed as +150 (Green or White) in a single value column. Does this make sense? I do not see a selection for this type calculation. From my perspective this is the TRUE DIAGONAL ASK VOLUME - DIAGONAL BID VOLUME NET DOMINANT VALUE. Hope this helps explain Thank you for your assistance, Regards, David

[2023-03-02 16:48:06] #20 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31334
We do not have an implementation of the example you provide where it does a diagonal comparison of the Bid and Ask separately (which we do have - Ask Vol Bid Vol Diagonal Difference) and then does a difference of those values (which we do not have). Therefore, the closest option we have is the Ask Vol Bid Vol Diagonal Difference for the text display. Refer to the following: Numbers Bars: Numbers Bars Text Types For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2023-03-02 18:07:16] #21 [Go To First Post]
User24791 - Posts: 44
Thanks John for your explanations...Not exactly what I am looking for compared to my knowledge of how Diagonal Dominant Values should be calculated i.e. Market Delta I will work with what SC has which is an excellent product. Cheers, David

[2023-07-17 13:22:49] #22 [Go To First Post]
User172835 - Posts: 4
Can a "Background Coloring Method" and "Text Coloring Method" be added for the "Ask vol Bid Vol Diff Diagonal 1 side - Actual"?

[2023-08-21 02:28:18] #23 [Go To First Post]
RayB - Posts: 5
Additionally, we really need “Background Type” to have a “Ask Bid Diagonal Difference Profile” option as well please.

[2023-09-22 02:39:03] #24 [Go To First Post]
User45989 - Posts: 54
+1 “Ask Bid Diagonal Difference Profile”

[2023-10-05 14:35:54] #25 [Go To First Post]
User172835 - Posts: 4
+1 “Ask Bid Diagonal Difference Profile” and still need my original post "Can a "Background Coloring Method" and "Text Coloring Method" be added for the "Ask vol Bid Vol Diff Diagonal 1 side - Actual"?"

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