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[2020-08-26 16:24:21]
User389151 - Posts: 37
Hi Im interested in trading with topstep using sierrachart (with heatmap and footprint). topstep told me I can't use sierrachart because they no longer support rithmic data feed. Is there any way around this? I'm using amp futures from toronto, if that's any help. thanks
[2020-08-26 17:26:33]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
No way around this.
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[2020-08-26 18:29:03]
User389151 - Posts: 37
do you know another funding company that would work?
[2020-08-26 19:32:25]
User964132 - Posts: 93
I asked Topstep as well if they could supply another data feed, so we could use sierra charts, I know there are several people working on their strategies with sierra charts as their platform, and they do not know jet that Topstep doesn't fund via Sierra charts anymore :-( Would be nice if SC would help to find an solution, but as it stands now, I might have to leave SC..
[2020-08-26 22:02:52]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
There may be a solution here involving Rithmic. We are discussing this with Rithmic. We do not have a definite answer yet. Hopefully, we will know in a few days.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-08-27 18:23:19
[2020-08-27 07:54:48]
User964132 - Posts: 93
Thank you!

Would really like a solution here (as all parties can benefit from this!!
[2020-08-27 10:48:36]
User389151 - Posts: 37
seems from my research none of the big funding companies support sierra chart. It's better to leave Sierra Chart, unless sierra chart can help find a solution soon.
[2020-08-27 19:20:41]
SC Support - Posts: 1795
Hi there User389151, we can speak if you have time, assuming you wish to make the case for us. Thank you
[2020-08-27 20:41:26]
User389151 - Posts: 37
sure I would like to speak if you think you have a solution for me to be able to trade with a funding company and stay on sierra chart. you have contact number?
[2020-08-27 20:53:56]
User814219 - Posts: 38
I pleaded with Topsteptrader yesterday to offer an Rithmic-alternative to Sierrachart users so that people could use Sierrachart with them but the final answer they gave was no.

I was a bit surprised they weren't willing to budge b/c I assumed most Topsteptrader users would be using Sierrachart and that would cut into their profits quite a bit.
[2020-08-27 20:57:42]
User389151 - Posts: 37
I think earn2trade is possible using some kind of bridge connection, but at your own risk if you get any issue, because sierra chart wont help with any support
[2020-08-27 22:37:01]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We want to bring your attention again to post #5. We will hear from Rithmic in a couple of days about a better interface between Sierra Chart and Rithmic.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
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[2020-08-28 02:32:12]
User701453 - Posts: 176
We want to bring your attention again to post #5. We will hear from Rithmic in a couple of days about a better interface between Sierra Chart and Rithmic.
Excellent.
I have SC and Infinity Futures as the broker.
I would like to keep my personal account with Infinity while I'm trading to get some funded accounts with Earn2Trade and LeeLoo.
However they both only offer Rithmic as the data feed.

Was thinking I will have to move to NinjaTrader and spend months converting all my required custom coded indicators and strats to Ninjascript/C#.
I would gain the ability to optimize input variables on my automated strats with Ninja Trader, it would be a huge leap forward for SC if this ability was provided in their platform.
[2020-08-28 19:14:48]
ertrader - Posts: 644
This is good to hear regarding Rithmic. There are several in the professional trading group I work with that are already evaluating an alternative non-SC and non-Ninja solution.
[2020-08-29 07:26:24]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
There are several in the professional trading group I work with that are already evaluating an alternative non-SC and non-Ninja solution.
This is fine. We are not going to do anything to keep this business other than helping Rithmic with the DTC protocol. And offering alternatives.

Although we would say, that Sierra Chart is a good platform for them to work with. Either they or Rithmic can just simply utilize the DTC protocol and have immediately plug-and-play compatibility with the Rithmic system. This is so simple. We are going to maintain our principles and proper standards.

It really is so simple for Rithmic to simply utilize their existing websocket Server that uses Google protocol buffer encoding and just simply add the DTC messages.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-08-29 07:51:57
[2020-08-30 04:41:14]
User701453 - Posts: 176
Sierra Chart is a good platform
Any plans to add the ability to optimize input variables of strats to bring SC to the level of NinjaTrader, Tradestation, Multicharts?
[2020-08-30 08:40:26]
User267701 - Posts: 66
Its understandable that they have no intention to f*** things up by implementing a new protocol they have no experience with. They consider the risk and the return of the invested time on top of the risk. Its kinda a big deal for them...and for their customers, who give a damn thing about the intentions if things go wrong.

But i also would like to be able to use SC with one of these evaluation services if needed.

The problem is, SC has the superior standard but the industry doesnt care. SC did put alot of money and time into their own data feed and FINALLY!!!!!! a decade long struggle ends. Just so they can continue to deal with all this inferior BS? I dont think so. And yes, unification is needed across the whole industry but is not desired by some big guys...makes competition harder and so each one sticks with his own ecosystem..

But if one wants to stay in the game and cant/wont compromise any longer for good reasons, then you might be forced to offer some of the existing stuff yourself...this may reduce the stress level but not sure about the workload. Only in the longrun it pays off for sure.

I just wish stuff would happen faster. I wonder what comes next after millisec format. My bet is SC's own orderrouting via direct link. But i am also waiting for the promissed trading journal functionality...this would be a big PLUS! In the end, SC works on their own exchange. To me, this sounds crazy...but well, i cant judge that.

I just dont know what Rithmic is offering as features for those evaluation companies. If its convenient as f*** to work with Rithmic then nobody in those evaluation companies is going even a single step back so SC can get again into the basket of supported platforms. Its really up to SC and Rithmic to find a lasting solution.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-08-30 13:40:54
[2020-09-07 16:50:20]
User701453 - Posts: 176
We want to bring your attention again to post #5. We will hear from Rithmic in a couple of days about a better interface between Sierra Chart and Rithmic.

Its been more than a few days.
Any update on getting SC to consume Rithmic data?
[2020-09-07 21:53:58]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
No Rithmic has not said anything further to us at this time regarding this. We will be following up this week.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2020-09-11 07:01:51]
User267701 - Posts: 66
any news?
[2020-09-11 08:43:21]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Not yet. But we have a call on Monday related to this.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2020-09-18 07:19:35]
User155105 - Posts: 4
I just started a topstep swing account and was able to trade using SC.
Am also watching order flow and it works good for me.
Still using the old SC version with the added files.
Service: Rithmic Trading
Server: Rithmic Topstep Trader (Europe)

While I understand the SC team, there is undoubtedly a boom of traders using funding companies to learn instead of risking their own capital, because only a small fraction is able to make profit in trading - ever. Maybe one would on average be still better off losing the money invested into subscriptions and resets by simply trading micros on his own account, but we all know how psychology works. If you would be smart, you would offer your own funding company with much more reasonable trailing rules like the current competitors and would profit from this boom...

If you consider such plans or would offer such a service for "resellers"/companies like E2T/OUP/TST I would really be interested to hear about those plans, feel free to drop me a mail in case...
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-09-18 07:44:26
[2020-09-18 14:07:53]
User267701 - Posts: 66
Couldnt find any news regarding Rithmic. Did you guys find a lasting solution on the protocol front?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-09-18 14:08:27
[2020-09-21 17:07:34]
User267701 - Posts: 66
I did find out, that SC wont comment on Rithmic anymore/for the time being?!?

Looks like Rithmic is not pleased with a publically raging SC support.

However, it looks like as if they actually work on a solution behind the curtain.

I HOPE SC has at least the freedom to assure us here that they will give us further notice once things are done.

So all can be at peace knowing the Rithmic saga is not finished but is actually still under developement.


SC???
[2020-09-21 20:44:49]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Post #24 is quite close to the truth.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

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