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[User Discussion] - Another Post Imploring Dark Theme/Night Mode. WE BEG YOU

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[2019-03-16 09:51:21] #1 [Go To First Post]
LearningSierra - Posts: 1
Hello SC Support I know it is a topic that has been discussed many times for years and years (without solution), since I have consulted other messages on this board. I'm trying to migrate from Ninjatrader to SC. I like SierraChart. Despite its old design and its 2004's "look and feel", I think it is a complete and powerful tool. I can even be happy with SC website, since I grew up with MS-DOS and it brings back fond memories. However, I am finding it impossible to adapt to those bright frames. It´s impossible for me to be several hours in front of the screen with those edges, and even more used to other platforms with comfortable dark themes. Yes, I know that the chart and practically everything else can be customized. And yes, I know it's a Windows "problem". But please guys, try to solve the problem with some kind of walkaround or something because we are in 2019 and even the creepiest platforms out there offer ways to not damage the view. Maybe now that Windows has a full dark mode is simpler to adapt SC, I do not know. (And of course I'm not going to use third-party payment software like WindowBlind. I´ve tried it and it mess evertything else). Please guys. Full dark theme to keep our eyes healthy, please. Try it. I know many people who do not give the chance to SierraChart due to something as seemingly small as this. I'm sorry but I can´t use the platform until you solve this. Regards. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-03-16 09:54:47

[2019-03-16 11:34:47] #2 [Go To First Post]
ganz - Posts: 1048
LearningSierra Full dark theme SC is not UWP nor .Net app these tools/libs/api are unreliable and slow so it's not possible in mid term (3-5 years) so don't ask them about it imo, as a long term user

[2019-03-17 04:08:25] #3 [Go To First Post]
Mike O - Posts: 5
SC won't implement this any time soon, but there is a workaround. Invert your screen colors with this tool https://zerowidthjoiner.net/negativescreen . (Use "simple inversion" mode).

[2019-03-17 09:19:29] #4 [Go To First Post]
User993113 - Posts: 71
you have to play with Global Settings -- > Graphic Settings - Global and copy everything from NT8 (for the colors with a color picker , for the fonts just check the NT8 settings ecc.)

[2019-03-17 18:16:27] #5 [Go To First Post]
Mike O - Posts: 5
User993113 The problem is that page doesn't let you change colors for all parts of the application.

[2019-03-17 19:17:09] #6 [Go To First Post]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
It seems as though there must be a way to change the title bar color of a standard window on Windows 10. Maybe there is a registry setting for this. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, change to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2019-03-17 19:52:09] #7 [Go To First Post]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Here are the basic points about this: Why is it in Windows 10 a user cannot change a standard window title bar color? This simply makes no sense. Second Sierra Chart creates a window in Sierra Chart using the standard operating system functions for this. If we use some newer method the operating system provides, then the problem is whether this is compatible with Windows 7. It then requires more effort to figure out what needs to be done and how to do it taking away time from other development. And then there is more effort required to port Sierra Chart to another operating system. Everything just becomes much more complex. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, change to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2019-03-18 02:44:39] #8 [Go To First Post]
Mike O - Posts: 5
How did TradeStation achieve it? It looks like a traditional windows app, with a dark theme. If you ported Sierra Chart to another OS, wouldn't you use the Qt framework? That supports color/style themes extensively.

[2019-03-18 02:55:05] #9 [Go To First Post]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
No we are not going to use QT or any framework. That would be a disaster. This decision was made years ago. We are developing our own framework gradually. The next significant change you will see is new dialog windows. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, change to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-03-18 03:13:10

[2019-03-19 01:57:40] #10 [Go To First Post]
User315969 - Posts: 10
Two very simple solutions: 1) Download the following theme and enjoy https://is.gd/ng4QcG 2) Use High Contrast Black setting in Windows 10 - jarring at first but I actually prefer this now as it minimizes distractions. I believe both will black out MS Office and some other applications so I keep a shortcut to Themes in my start menu and switch between these and a "normal" one depending what I am working on. During trading day, I keep the dark themes on, helps to maintain concentration.

[2019-03-27 18:29:21] #11 [Go To First Post]
Yodabico - Posts: 1
Thank you guys. Hope this issue be solved next years.

[2019-03-27 19:13:35] #12 [Go To First Post]
User138602 - Posts: 169
Offtopic: Just saying...Yes, SC doesnt look as shiny as other platforms. BUT!!! its FAST, ROCK SOLID, VERY economical in terms of system resources and offers SOOOO much, if not everything?, for such a little price. IMO, its simply the BEST offer you can get these days. And I prefer that ANYtime over a newer look, which i also could appreciate. Its a trading platform...a tool, no fancy look prioritized/needed. And i am glad and sure, it stays that way. BTW: I think the soon coming OpenGL support implementation will increase SCs possibilities in the graphical area...not just performance wise.

[2019-03-30 07:11:37] #13 [Go To First Post]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Thank you for the comment. This is going to make a real big performance difference once everything is stable with it: BTW: I think the soon coming OpenGL support implementation will increase SCs possibilities in the graphical area...not just performance wise. This is a very major leap forward in performance. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, change to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2019-04-03 16:21:07] #14 [Go To First Post]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Yes, SC doesnt look as shiny as other platforms. One thing to be aware of is that Sierra Chart has a high degree of customization and also with the Control Bar button appearance which is continuing to be enhanced even at this time. Refer to: Control Bar: Control Bar Button Properties We are also going to create a new dialog interface which allow you to control the colors of those as well. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, change to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2019-04-03 18:39:03] #15 [Go To First Post]
bradh - Posts: 854
Another Windows 10 Option is to invert colors. Look for Color Filter Settings. Here is an example: Before: http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?Image=1554316511982.png After: http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?Image=1554316415944.png

[2019-04-30 10:25:17] #16 [Go To First Post]
ILIM KIRGIZ - Posts: 187
By using Sierra Chart's customization and GreyEveTheme Windows Theme, you can get attached look.


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[2019-04-30 16:59:19] #17 [Go To First Post]
User993113 - Posts: 71
after you apply that theme it is not comfortable to work with MS office

[2019-04-30 17:04:52] #18 [Go To First Post]
User138602 - Posts: 169
what about open office?

[2019-05-02 06:51:12] #19 [Go To First Post]
ILIM KIRGIZ - Posts: 187
reply to #17: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/msoffice/forum/all/excel-and-high-contrast-theme-non-workable/753ecdcb-08e1-4396-b0df-4854cdb06f05?auth=1

[2019-05-03 07:51:25] #20 [Go To First Post]
User745789 - Posts: 173
While not dark theme, related: I was able to reduce the border width on charts. The thick system borders applied to apps, plus the default SC border was a waste of space and ugly. Still not able to get the app window borders to change color without installing a new theme. See attached image for how-to and result. Edit: negatives - caused SC menu font to shrink - possibly caused the IBKR TWS login window to behave very oddly. Hard to say if it was related, with TWS being as randomly behaved as it is. Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-05-03 08:02:28


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[2019-05-03 08:30:41] #21 [Go To First Post]
caligola - Posts: 116
reply to #20 would you mind to share a screenshot also about negatives?

[2019-05-03 08:37:54] #22 [Go To First Post]
User745789 - Posts: 173
Just imagine all SC menus text being approx 8px Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-05-03 08:38:58

[2019-05-03 08:41:11] #23 [Go To First Post]
User745789 - Posts: 173
pic Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-05-03 08:42:14


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[2019-05-03 12:41:50] #24 [Go To First Post]
ILIM KIRGIZ - Posts: 187
the result is not acceptable when borders are reduced.

[2019-05-06 03:09:01] #25 [Go To First Post]
User745789 - Posts: 173
What is the current best system hack to get get rid of white chart boarders without using a high contrast Windows theme that interferes with spreadsheets etc.

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