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New Sierra Chart Futures Order Routing with Data Service (Available)

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[2019-11-01 12:33:03]
Lmesd - Posts: 19
Stoked with the vision to develop new standards, yet willing to plan things out
1) Will the CME direct order routing be able to coexist with TT FIX to handle EUREX ? during the time it takes to build a connection to that exchange, which was exposed as uncertain due to cost vs demand
2) How is the risk management of the CME routing planned to be taken care of without a technology provider as middle man controlling he limits ? If too early to discuss, nevermind
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-11-01 12:35:51
[2019-11-05 22:39:55]
User353955 - Posts: 13
Hi,

1. Can I pay the CME Full Group exchange fee through AMP too?

So every month: Denali feed + Sierra TT Fix ($20) + Full CME Group fees for non pro ($3.25) as shown on this page?

https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=DenaliDataFeed#Exchanges

On the Amp live trading setup page https://clients.ampfutures.com/live-trading-setup-request they only allow you to select the Denali feed + Sierra TT Fix and then their more expensive CME group bundle costing $15.

2. If I cannot pay for Denali + Sierra TT Fix and the $3.25 CME exchange fee in AMP, can I pay AMP for Denali + Sierra TT Fix and then pay my CME exchange fees directly to Sierra Charts instead? (avoiding their $15 CME exchange fee).

Thanks for your help.

UPDATE: I spoke with AMP. They advised that customers can setup the Sierra TT Fix + Order routing through them and subscribe to Sierra CME exchange fees separately. Happy days.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-11-06 22:44:15
[2019-11-05 23:32:11]
Lmesd - Posts: 19
EUREX market data will still pass through Chicago
Is that also true for ICE Europe market data ?
[2019-11-06 23:23:50]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Yes in regards to post #227.

1) Will the CME direct order routing be able to coexist with TT FIX to handle EUREX ?
Not sure about this right now.

2) How is the risk management of the CME routing planned to be taken care of without a technology provider as middle man controlling the limits ?
Sierra Chart would provide full risk management functionality which we would expect be augmented by additional controls from the clearing firm.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-11-06 23:24:32
[2019-12-08 20:16:34]
User788984 - Posts: 28
I wish to run auto-trading on SC remotely on a VPS, using this exciting new order routing feature through the TT FIX protocol. Since SC has optimized the connections to the futures exchanges, is the LOCATION of my selected VPS still a consideration for tick-by-tick low latency strategies? With so many VPS options out there, limiting my choices to just Chicago (E. Cermak Dr) is fine if it improves execution speed. However, if the distance from VPS to SC servers is not a concern, then my options ($$) expand. Recommendations??
[2019-12-11 00:53:52]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
If you are going to be trading the CME group of exchanges, really anywhere in Chicago should be fine. If you want the absolute lowest latency, then you should use the Aurora data center. But that is a more costly location. If you are willing to spend 1500 to 2000USD a month let us know then we can see about helping you get a location in Aurora. But we have to double check on the pricing.

In that case you will have sub millisecond order routing.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-11 00:54:32
[2020-08-01 17:44:29]
TexTrader98 - Posts: 1
Probably been asked before but which of these brokers are best. (Hoping to skip analyzing all of them) Have IB currently...but isnt supported for SC Order Routing.

Advantage Futures
AMP Global Clearing
Dorman Trading
ED&F Man Capital Markets
Stage 5 Trading
Phillip Capital
Edge Clear
AGN Futures
[2020-08-02 02:12:01]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We will have to let other users answer this. We cannot say.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2020-08-03 14:39:52]
ertrader - Posts: 644
I've been happy with AMP since moving off of IB a few months ago. Several traders in our group also use AMP and are generaly happy. The only thing that has been unresolved is real time account balances. There is a delay but by the end of the day and sometimes earlier, it is accurate.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-08-03 14:40:41
[2020-08-21 07:38:52]
ABTrader - Posts: 32
With Sierra Chart Futures Order Routing Service With Data
If I would like to trade on CME and HKFE.

IS this correct amount for recurring payment for data fee?

Denali Exchange Data Feed with order routing services -$20 /month + CME Bundled (no Market depth ) $3.25 /month =$23.25/Month
Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed $20 + HKFE Data $23 = $43 /month

Do I have to pay exchange data fee for HKFE and CME to the FCM ?
Does the TT order routing fee $0.1 /contract can be billed through Philip capital ?
[2020-08-21 09:10:18]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
First before you go further, can you let us know if Philip Capital supports the Hong Kong futures exchange through TT. Our recommendation is that if you want to trade Hong Kong futures to use CQG.

We will always recommend what we know is the best solution.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2020-08-21 12:23:20]
ABTrader - Posts: 32
First before you go further, can you let us know if Philip Capital supports the Hong Kong futures exchange through TT.

At first, I have found HKFE is on the list on thier TT platfom (refered to attached image)
To ensure it is compatible with SC/TT order routing I sent an email attched the instruciton for SC/TT order routing to Philip capital to confirm whether they can connect to HKFE through Sierra Chart/TTand the answer is yes.Philip Capital confirmed it can be done .

On the stability and technical side of it I have yet to find out.

For CQG ,I will keep that as the back up plan.
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[2020-08-21 19:28:23]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Ok, this is good to know.

Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed $20 + HKFE Data $23 = $43 /month
In this case the data feed cost is 25 USD per month for 150 real-time symbols.


Do I have to pay exchange data fee for HKFE and CME to the FCM ?
No you pay these to Sierra Chart.

Does the TT order routing fee $0.1 /contract can be billed through Philip capital ?
Not at this time.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2020-09-14 04:02:48]
User550780 - Posts: 8
1. After signing up for the service, do I still need a broker, since, if I understand correctly, SC will accept and route orders? If "Yes", why?
Yes, you need to your own futures trading in a brokerage firm that is compatible with SC Order Routing with Data Service. SC is a third-party software provider and NOT a brokerage firm.

Once you decide on your brokerage firm, you may decide whether to pay/use your brokerage market feed or SC Denali (for CME). Read the online doc on how to set up.

I use SC Denali and SC Order Routing (via AMP). With the exception of $0.10/trade charge by SC, everything else billed on my AMP account.
[2020-09-14 11:17:20]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
1. Absolutely you need a broker/clearing firm. The orders are routed to TT and then onto the exchange but without an associated firm and a trading account, the exchange could never accept the order.


3. You do have to pay exchange fees for market data.

4. We describe the advantages here:
Sierra Chart / Trading Technologies Futures Order Routing Service
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

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