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Trade DOM - last traded bid/ask background

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[2017-05-23 08:34:48]
User884550 - Posts: 149
is it possible to change the bacground color logic for recent traded ask/bid?
your current setting keeps the backgound color for recent ask when already trading into the bid, and its somehwat useless as primary purpose of this is to make current trades easier to spot with your eyes.
see attached gif how it works in Jigsaw, can you do same logic pls? it should not be very difficult
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[2017-05-24 03:21:26]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We will look into this.
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[2017-05-24 05:40:59]
User884550 - Posts: 149
yes please, this small adjustment would make your dom much more readable
[2017-05-31 04:06:14]
User839162 - Posts: 82
+1 for this adjustemt.
[2017-07-29 17:31:00]
User564972 - Posts: 9
+2 for this adjustment. This is all the DOM needs. Please release this
[2017-07-29 17:50:03]
User564972 - Posts: 9
Actually all that is needed is a background colour for either the last size or cumulative last last up or down tick or either. The font uses the default font for last size I believe although you can specify the colour for the down or up tick this is basically useless because the eye reverts to the last size box or best ask bid box. If we have the option to simply colour the background of the last size box then the DOM would be a thousand tmes better for me.

At the moment I can't concentrate and would need to switch to jigsaw or any other simply dom that does this such as TT x_trader one of the best doms.

The only close yet awkward hack it to colour the recent bid and recent ask background and then put the font the same as the ask bid background so only the most recent bid or ask boxes show up however this is also useless because they move out of sync with the last/price quantity background and there is even more confusion.

I have seen another request for this here: see post 62 on futures.io forum and no-one has a solution. I am sure SC can easily implement this by adding in another column called last bid ask or cumulative last bid ask background that would line up with the LAST/PRICE QUANTITY BACKGROUND.

please can you release this in the next update. This would help me so much as I don't want to switch to jigsaw or TT right now. thankyou
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2017-07-29 22:06:21
[2017-07-31 04:29:06]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We will do our best to get to this, this week.
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[2017-07-31 13:00:29]
User564972 - Posts: 9
Thanks SC Much appreciated. Just to clarify exactly what is requested is follows: Just a plain background colour choice for the cumulative last size or size cell only in a similar way to how this option is available for the recent bid or recent ask 'cell' is all that is needed .i.e the background for that one cell without necessarily indicating whether it has ticked up or down is all that is needed. The up or down tick is already adjustable in terms of text colour so that I assume you will leave and that's fine because then we have a choice still which is great. This will look great and line up to the eye very well with a matching bid ask background or a colour combination and to match either just the LAST/PRICE QUANTITY or BEST Bid/Ask Background on the price ladder.



edit: Actually if the background for the cumulative last price / last price cell can be adjusted to reflect the colour associated with the colour defined for the LAST/PRICE QUANTITY int terms of whether the best price is at the ASK or BID ( currently available for the LAST/PRICE QUANTITY i believe ) may also be helpful and I know is also a feature of other excellent DOMS. i.e you could match it by selection then this may be really beneficial as-well!
Currently I switch between using either the Best Bid/Ask box or the LAST/PRICE QUANTITY for which the latter I would use a solid background colour for the cumulative last / last price if this option was available and depending if I switch colour for the LAST/PRICE QUANTITY (which Is currently an option ) I would also change the background depending on where the last / cumulative last price is ( either at the bid or ask ) could be useful for faster markets.

Then one could choose to have colours to identify last up tick down tick ( if they chose to ) and whether it is at the bid / ask by concentrating on just that small box's background or just have the cell background identify the position of the bid or ask ie by different background colour or not; i.e by having the choice of a single colour to match either the LAST/PRICE QUANTITY or BEST Bid/Ask Background cell

Hope this makes sense and I hope this helps myself and others. I really look forward to this. Thanks :)
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2017-07-31 13:18:46
[2017-08-10 23:01:18]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
The changes/additions have been released in the latest version.
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[2019-02-14 13:40:22]
User590016 - Posts: 50
Where can I find that option?

Changed background coloring for Last Traded Bid/Ask Background to display both Bid and Ask background

Documentation has not been updated.

thanks
[2019-02-14 16:06:20]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31480
Yes, we are a bit behind on the documentation update. But in release 1871 and forward, the coloring of both the Last Traded Bid and Ask is not an option, it will color both of them. You just need to Enable the background in the Graphics Settings. Refer to the following documentation link and the item right below for both Bid and Ask:
Customizing Fonts, Colors, Line Styles, and Widths for Chart Trading, Chart DOM, and Trade DOM: Chart DOM Last Traded Recent Bid Volume Background

We will be adding an option in the near future to make it work the way it used to, but that will require enabling the option to go back to only the most recent Bid or Ask.
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[2019-02-25 23:13:29]
whats1thingnow - Posts: 407
hi, i'm running 1875

the highlight of the recent bid/ask is implemented for what was last hit and last lifted ... this is NOT what post #1 meant when they posted, please see screenshot closely from post #1:
https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=12116

what needs to be highlighted is where trade should happen - aka the best bid/ask

simply, please use the current feature 'ChartDOM Best Bid/Ask Box Background' but instead of highlighting the price column, do the highlighting on recent bid/ask columns
- highlight the 'ChartDOM Best Bid' on the 'recent bid volume' column
- highlight the 'ChartDOM Best Ask' on the 'recent ask volume' column



right now, because the highlight is only where the last hit or last lifted price, when the bid/ask depth moves and no trades go through yet, it gets confusing

the current implementation of recent bid/ask highlight and example of it being confusing from YM dec 2018 (https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=26292)


the pink in recent bid is where the last hit was (this is great)

and the blue in the recent ask is where the last lift was (this is great)


but depth bid and depth ask had moved already... 2 white (or whatever color) highlight boxes need to show at the respective recent bid & recent ask columns to show the best bid/ask

this usually isn't a problem for thicker markets like the ES, as what's being hit and lifted usually are exactly where the bid/ask is currently (no spread so the two boxes diagonal to each other)

but for thinner markets where there is a spread between the bid and ask.... the highlight should be like this example from jigsaw (https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=26291)

830.0 is where the inside ask (best ask) is, and there is a white box on the recent ask column

829.5 is where the last lift price is (this is what's currently implemented on sc1871 which is great - recent ask price is highlighted in yellow)

829.0 is where the inside bid (best bid) is, and again there is a white box on the recent bid column

as per John's post #11:
We will be adding an option in the near future to make it work the way it used to, but that will require enabling the option to go back to only the most recent Bid or Ask

This is definitely needed because at any one time, only the most recent bid or ask should be highlighted as seen in jigsaw screenshot

at any one moment in time, there is a MAXIMUM of 3 boxes (if last traded price is NOT where best bid/ask is currently: https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=26291)
- 1 yellow box (at last ask OR last bid price)
- 2 white boxes (one at best bid and another at best ask)


however, during active trading when market is trading at the best bid or best ask, there will only be 2 boxes: https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=17319
e.g. trades are hitting the best bid right now
- 1 white box (at best ask)
- 1 yellow box (at best bid)
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[2019-02-25 23:19:05]
YK - Posts: 33
+1 #12
[2019-03-11 21:27:12]
whats1thingnow - Posts: 407
thank you sc for your hard work :)

any updates on post #11 and #12?

thank you!
[2019-03-17 23:53:42]
whats1thingnow - Posts: 407
pretty please sc support?

can we implement post #11 & #12?

this will fulfill
- request from 2014-10-14 (Dom display request | Post: 44875)
- request from 2017-05-23 (post #1 of this thread)
- request from 2018-03-09 (Recent Bid/Ask Volume | Post: 142371)




summary:

please use the current feature 'ChartDOM Best Bid/Ask Box Background' but instead of highlighting the price column, do the highlighting on recent bid/ask columns
- highlight the 'ChartDOM Best Bid' on the 'recent bid volume' column
- highlight the 'ChartDOM Best Ask' on the 'recent ask volume' column




as per John's post #11:
We will be adding an option in the near future to make it work the way it used to, but that will require enabling the option to go back to only the most recent Bid or Ask

This is definitely needed because at any one time, only the most recent bid or ask should be highlighted as seen in jigsaw screenshot

at any one moment in time, there is a MAXIMUM of 3 highlight boxes in the recent bid/ask columns (if last traded price is NOT where best bid/ask is currently):
- https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=26291
- 1 yellow box (at last ask OR last bid price)
- 2 white boxes (one at best bid and another at best ask)


however, during active trading when market is trading at the best bid or best ask, there will only be 2 highlight boxes in the recent bid/ask columns:
- https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=17319
e.g. trades are hitting the best bid right now
- 1 yellow box (at best bid)
- 1 white box (at best ask)

Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-03-18 00:01:08
[2019-03-20 03:58:15]
User839162 - Posts: 82
Please fix this. I refuse to upgrade because of the recent bid/ask volume background change. Both recent bid/ask are highlighted. I remember it being like this a long time ago and now you changed it back, why?
[2019-03-20 08:50:37]
ticinotrader - Posts: 378
Please fix this. I refuse to upgrade because of the recent bid/ask volume background change. Both recent bid/ask are highlighted. I remember it being like this a long time ago and now you changed it back, why?

In the most recent version(s) (I'm on 1882) there is already an option to turn this option on/off.
You can find at Trade -> Chart DOM Settings -> 'Display Both Last Traded Recent Bid and Ask Background'
Hope this helps.
[2019-03-20 09:23:16]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Please fix this. I refuse to upgrade because of the recent bid/ask volume background change. Both recent bid/ask are highlighted. I remember it being like this a long time ago and now you changed it back, why?
There is an option in the latest version to disable this. And this was added because this is what was requested by some users. We are just adding the functionality requested.
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[2019-03-21 06:11:47]
whats1thingnow - Posts: 407
just tested 1882 - post #11 done, thanks sc


can we please implement post #15, which will fulfill requests date back to 2014, and is actually the original intent/request of this thread (post #1)?


please use the current feature 'ChartDOM Best Bid/Ask Box Background' but instead of highlighting the price column, do the highlighting on recent bid/ask columns
- highlight the 'ChartDOM Best Bid' on the 'recent bid volume' column
- highlight the 'ChartDOM Best Ask' on the 'recent ask volume' column

since post #11 is done... after implementing the above, we should see:

at any one moment in time, there is a MAXIMUM of 3 highlight boxes in the recent bid/ask columns (if last traded price is NOT where best bid/ask is currently):
- https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=26291
- 1 yellow box (at last ask OR last bid price (works b/c post #11 completed))
- 2 white boxes (one at best bid and another at best ask)


however, during active trading when market is trading at the best bid or best ask, there will only be 2 highlight boxes in the recent bid/ask columns:
- https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=17319
e.g. trades are hitting the best bid right now
- 1 yellow box (at best bid (works b/c post #11 completed))
- 1 white box (at best ask)

[2019-03-25 16:04:20]
User574234 - Posts: 15
Here is another one from 2017-06-11 (DOM Recent Bid/Ask Background?) - I guess you can add that to the list of threads requesting for 'proper recent bid/ask background highlight' from post #15:

this will fulfill
- request from 2014-10-14 (Dom display request | Post: 44875)
- request from 2017-05-23 (post #1 of this thread)
- request from 2018-03-09 (Recent Bid/Ask Volume | Post: 142371)

Post #19 describes EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO DONE!

@SC support, is it possible to implement this?

To us, this is a basic feature in a DOM.

We simply cannot recommend SC to our students without this as it's hard for us to follow the depth without it, let alone some beginner and intermediate students we have.

Any ETA on this? Please and thanks.
[2019-03-27 07:57:19]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We need time to decipher what is being asked for in post #19. Also, with all of these links being given in post #20 you are only making this more complicated and confusing things. It doesn't help. It helps to simply to put a simple concise explanation of what you are looking for without any external links.
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[2019-03-28 12:51:59]
whats1thingnow - Posts: 407
with all of these links being given in post #20 you are only making this more complicated and confusing things.

all the links in post #20 by user @User574234 (most copied from my post #15) is basically saying this feature has been requested in multiple threads on the following dates:
- 2014-10-14
- 2017-05-23
- 2017-06-11
- 2018-03-09

It doesn't help. It helps to simply to put a simple concise explanation of what you are looking for without any external links.

yes, i understand.

that's why i've summed up everything into a simple concise explanation in post #19

thank you in advance for looking at and implementing post #19
[2019-04-15 07:34:10]
User574234 - Posts: 15
Any updates on post #19?
[2019-04-20 17:19:48]
whats1thingnow - Posts: 407
look at the black boxes on the right side (jigsaw dom): https://www.sierrachart.com/Download.php?Folder=SupportBoard&download=27758


really makes a big difference when looking at the order flow
[2019-04-21 00:54:12]
User745789 - Posts: 173
Per that example on #24, two permanent opposing B/O background highlights does help with viewing. In that example, they are black. Those black highlights do not show last traded price, they simply highlight where the bid and offer is in the last recent volume columns, wrt to the price ladder/scale.

ps related and more important, thank you for recent fix of vanishing last traded B/O volumes after a pause in trade.

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