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[User Discussion] - Managing drawings between timeframes or charts

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[2014-11-13 02:49:44]
User37537 - Posts: 78
Hello,

I view charts for a given symbol on various timeframes. However, I have a different Study Collection I need to use for each timeframe. Is there a way to do this, without manually changing the Study Collection each time I change timeframe on a chart?

I have tried to do this by keeping one chart open for each timeframe and using the "show drawings from other charts" option, but this is insufficient because I am not then only able to manage a given drawing from any timeframe. The number of charts I need to keep open at the same time then also becomes unreasonable ( timeframe x symbols ).

Thanks.
[2014-11-14 08:03:55]
jivetrader - Posts: 371
it is not clear, are you wanting to copy drawings or studies between charts, or both? either way, it appears that you have described how to do it. you can also use hotkeys and toolbar buttons, as well as dummy studies, for convenience.
[2014-11-14 13:54:02]
User37537 - Posts: 78
Hi, I'll try to be more clear. Lets say I am working with a symbol, and I am using both the 5 minute and 1 hour timeframes, switching back and forth. Basically either of the following two things would solve my problem:

a) Be able to have the study collection change automatically when I switch between timeframes

or

b) Have a 5 minute chart and 1 hour chart of symbol xyz up beside each other so I can see them both, and when I draw a rectangle on the 1 hour chart, it shows up on both charts and I can adjust it from the 5 minute chart.



[2014-11-14 18:39:41]
jivetrader - Posts: 371
the second is possible, using the Copy drawings from other chart method, but yes you can only manage those drawings from the original chart. and sometimes with multiple charts sharing drawings, it is difficult to know which chart the original drawings are on.

SC, it would be helpful for auto-copied drawings to be editable on any chart, source or destination.

as far as associating a particular studies collection with a particular chart number i think this would have to be an option added somewhere in the Chart Setup. again you could appeal to SC Engineering to see if it is feasible.

cheers
[2014-11-14 18:53:14]
User37537 - Posts: 78
jivetrader, thanks for your comments, but as I mentioned it does not solve my problem because I can not manage the drawing from any chart. the only way I can see to accomplish this is to use the same chart for all timeframes, but then I am constantly having to switch Study Collections every time I change the timeframe of the chart.

I think the main difficulty for me is that in SC, a drawing seems to be associated with a 'Chart', whereas in all other software I am used to, a drawing is associated with a 'Symbol' and there is no concept of which chart owns the drawing and which are just copies. This makes it much easier to manage drawings.

If there is no way to accomplish this in SC right now, I would definitely like to submit this as a feature request if possible, and also the ability to, for a specific Chart (or even as a global default), assign a specific Study Collection to a specific timeframe.

One use case for this is as follows: If I have say a 40 period moving average on my weekly chart, and then I switch to the daily timeframe, if I want to see the same moving average, then it now has to be a 200 period moving average in order for it to be the same line. Since the MA is different, it requires a different Study Collection. Likewise some indicators may be appropriate for smaller timeframes but may be irrelevant on the longer timeframes so having the study Collection switch automatically would allow the user to customize this however they need.

SC Engineering, what are your thoughts?
[2021-07-08 06:16:50]
User676363 - Posts: 59
Wow. Interesting thread from 2014...

I am looking at Manage Drawings panel now in 2021 and I see you guys have had a tough journey.
At tradingview.com, they have a concept of grouping for objects so that you can lock and hide certain groups of objects (groups can be named as you like). Each object has the option of appearing on a timeframe of your choosing, so you can accomplish what you are looking to do there.

With SierraChart we get a list of object groupings that are by drawing type and symbol.

I like the idea of tying drawings to a time frame because levels are often created and as you dig down into lower time frames and refine the levels, if you decide to add any new ones, they become cumbersome when you go back out to another timeframe. This can be managed with the chart settings:advanced settings 2 tab where you can copy from charts, but as the user above mentions, this requires keeping a chart for each time frame. Perhaps an option.

Personally, I would like to see the Tools:Manage Chart Drawings Drawings Window redesigned.
1. It should change focus as you click on different charts / it should have a menu (preferably a command line option like ctrl+f panel in chrome that allows you to type "Chart:5" or "Chart:USD" and be presented with a selection and hit enter and bam, there you are... I suggest ctrl+/ or ctrl+. as this is common in many programming tools to access the ever growing functionality.
2. It already has Drawing Type filters and a filter for Symbol, but these should be available from the keyboard with the menu access mentioned in 1.
3. It would be nice if the list of objects could be sorted by date added and by object properties (i.e. price - open, high, low, close, and time on the chart). We can see the anchors in the list, but they have no sorting ability and are not organized.
4. It would be nice if the text of the object could be changed from this panel - click on the text and edit directly or via command line... i.e. change all text from x to y.
5. It would be nice if we could select objects with certain properties such as alerts, locked, hidden.
6. Keep track of which time frame was used for the object and allow it to be used as a sorting/filtering mechanism. Hide all hourly lines, for example, and how all 15 min.

I also wish all the objects had a hover property allowing a block of text (in addition to the text that displays with the object) so that we might be able to hide or not use the text on the chart, but to hover the mouse over the object and get a popup with details in a hover box (personal text, plus any info selected regarding the object properties).

It seems to me that if the drawing objects are stored in a database, it should be easy to create an interface for a user to take those objects and organize them how they wish either in a tactile fashion with the mouse or with the keyboard using commands/scripts. If the properties of the objects are discoverable, the user should be able to select precisely what they need either by adding a column to the Drawings table visually or by using the command line to select what they need.

If the command line is used, we can expect to use voice commands eventually as well, so I'd really like to see this path taken in future development...

Good luck everybody. Wonder how the Thank you button here works. If somebody gets enough thank you's does SC Engineering start a plan to implement the feature?
[2021-08-09 22:30:28]
whats1thingnow - Posts: 407
SC, it would be helpful for auto-copied drawings to be editable on any chart, source or destination.
glad this is available now :)

sometimes with multiple charts sharing drawings, it is difficult to know which chart the original drawings are on.

was wondering if there is an easy way to find out which chart the drawing belongs to?

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