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Date/Time: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 01:01:04 +0000
Before buying Package 11: real-time CME data options for Numbers Bars with a funded Lucid (prop) account (account: kwin1981)
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| [2026-11-11 19:41:25] |
| User643122 - Posts: 1 |
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Hello, I am considering Service Package 11 to use Numbers Bars on NQ, GC and MGC futures. I trade a funded Lucid Trading prop account that I purchased, connected through Rithmic (Lucid also offers Tradovate/CQG and Tradesea). I do not have a separate personal live account at a broker. My 21-day trial has already ended. Before paying, I would like to understand the cheapest correct setup. 1. Setup: Is the correct setup Denali for market data (Allow Support for Sierra Chart Data Feeds = Yes) and the Lucid Rithmic connection for order routing only? Alternatively, can I use Rithmic for real-time data together with the Denali historical data (without paying the Denali exchange fees) so that Numbers Bars has full historical Bid/Ask volume? If so, would there be a gap in the most recent 10-15 minutes? 2. Non-professional rates: Is a funded Lucid account accepted as the live funded account for the non-professional CME rates, or is the Stage 5 account with $100 still required? Does the one-time Denali free trial apply in my case? 3. Cost: If I activate Full CME Group (including COMEX) without Market Depth for Numbers Bars on NQ, GC and MGC, what total monthly cost should I expect (Package 11 plus exchange fees)? 4. Evaluation: Can I evaluate Package 11 before paying, and for how long, since my trial has ended? 5. Services: Can any of Rithmic, CQG (via Tradovate) or Tradesea provide real-time CME/COMEX data with historical Bid/Ask volume for Numbers Bars without paying separately for Denali? Which setup do you recommend? Thank you very much for your help, kwin1981 |
| [2026-11-11 20:35:21] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 48504 |
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1. You can either get your data from Rithmic, or from our Denali Exchange Data Feed. There is no option to get the historical data from our Denali Exchange Data Feed and get the real-time data from Rithmic. Rithmic has a lack of historical data, so if you need to have complete historical data, then you will definitely need to use our Denali Exchange Data Feed. 2. A Lucid account (or any Prop Firm) does not count towards the requirement for a live, funded, futures trading account in order to qualify for the CME Group Non-Professional rates. Refer to the following: Denali Exchange Data Feed: Understanding and Accessing Data From the CME, CBOT, NYMEX, COMEX Exchanges 3. Package 11 costs $46.00 per month, but there are multi-month discounts on this. Refer to the following: Description of Service Packages and Pricing The exchange you mention costs $6.00 per month. The full list of exchanges and their costs can be found at the following link: Denali Exchange Data Feed: Supported Exchanges (Exchange Fees) 4. The "Base" packages are intended for training and development purposes, so these are a little less expensive. The "Base Advanced" package has the same feature set as the "Integrated Advanced" package. You just can not connect to Data or Trading services, but you do have access to our Delayed Streaming Data. See the link given above for the packages. 5. As noted above, Rithmic has a lack of historical data. You can not connect Sierra Chart to Tradovate - due to their not allowing it. We are not familiar with Tradesea, so we can not comment on this. So there are limitations with each selection. As we stated previously, if you need historical data with proper Bid/Ask information, then our Denali Exchange Data Feed is the best solution. As noted in the link given previously about the CME Group Non-Professional requirement, we recommend the solution outlined at the following link for your kind of situation: Easy Solution to CME Funded Trading Account Requirement For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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