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Date/Time: Sat, 09 Aug 2025 19:30:28 +0000
New to live account - questions
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| [2025-08-07 13:40:23] |
| neevaksama - Posts: 42 |
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I have not traded live before so please do bear with the newbie questions (sorry) For lower-priced fees for real-time exchange data, it's mentioned to either use Edge Clear or Cannon Trading here: Easy Solution to CME Funded Trading Account Requirement Q1: However, can I use the other brokers mentioned in Teton Routing: (Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing: Setup Instructions) (in particular AMP Futures) ? Will this also let me get real time data at lower fees? _______________________ Q2a. What is the purpose of the below quote? More specifically, by providing my username, how does that help my broker, does that let them switch from their internal routing service to Teton? Your clearing firm or broker will do the necessary set up. They will ask you for your Sierra Chart Account Name (username) which can be found under Help >> About within Sierra Chart.
They do not need any other details regarding your Sierra Chart account. Do not give them your password. Q2b. The below statement puzzles me. Does this mean 1 Sierra Chart account can be linked to multiple trading account? Is this perhaps in the context of trading multiple live accounts via copy trading? Thank you SC for the quick responses. Any number of Teton order routing trading accounts can be assigned to a Sierra Chart username. So you can have multiple accounts accessible through your same username.
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| [2025-08-07 14:35:21] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 41327 |
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Q1. Any broker with which Sierra Chart can connect can be used to verify your non-professional standing for the CME Group data. This includes AMP. Q2a. If you are using the Teton Order Routing service, then your broker needs to know your Sierra Chart Account Name in order to properly configure the Teton Order Routing Service. We connect your Sierra Chart software to your Teton account through that Account Name. Q2b. It is stating that you can have 1 Sierra Chart account with multiple Teton Order Routing accounts. If these accounts are with the same broker, then you can use the "Order Allocation to Trade Accounts". For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2025-08-08 17:03:44] |
| neevaksama - Posts: 42 |
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Q2a. The way you have phrased it seems like Teton Order Routing is an independent service from Sierra Charts that only Sierra Charts customers can use. This is something I have realized. Q2b. Are they any other use cases of linking 1 Sierra Chart account with multiple Teton Order Routing account? Teton/Denali specific new questions Q3. I realized Teton Order Routing is not supported by prop firms (at least the ones I looked at); is it mainly meant for trading personal accounts then and not prop firms? I personally would like to stick to Teton because of the several threads I saw people having issues with Rithmic Q4a. If I can't use Teton, then does that mean there is no point in using Denali since Denali can only be used with Teton based (as per Denali Exchange Data Feed: Introduction)? It can be used with any Trading service and must be used with the Teton Futures Order Routing Service.
Edit to Q4a: I realized I always have to use Denali no matter what since that is an abstraction over CME live data. This has not been stated explicitly so I'm not sure. Q4b. Q4a seems to contradict with the below quote; almost as if I can use Denali without using Teton (eg: if I trade prop firms using their Rithmic data, I have to still use Denali. I know this sounds basic enough but Youtube tells me otherwise)? The Denali Exchange Data Feed supports full and seamless integration with all supported Trading services:
Interactive Brokers Trading Service Rithmic Trading Platform Service Teton Order Routing Service CQG Trading Platform service Linking to broker specific new questions Q5. If what is mentioned in Q3 is true (i.e Teton necessary only for trading personal accounts),should sign up for Rithmic or Teton with my broker when registering with them for the purposes of being eligible for non-professional fees? Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-08-08 17:53:04
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| [2025-08-08 19:09:19] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 41327 |
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Q2a. Sort of. Teton is our software that we developed for Order Routing. Since it is order routing, it is separate from our offering for the charting and data. Q2b. Not that we can think of. Q3. Prop Firms do not use the Teton Order Routing service. Most of them use Rithmic. Q4. Teton and Denali are separate items. You have to use our Denali Exchange Data Feed when you are using Teton, since there is no other source for the data (everything is Sierra Chart in this case). But you can use the Denali Exchange Data Feed with any other broker/order routing service. You do not "always" have to use our Denali Exchange Data Feed (except as noted above with Teton). We support data from Rithmic and Interactive Brokers. But you will find that our Denali Exchange Data Feed is far superiod. Q5. We definitely recommend using Teton, even if you are only using it to get the non-professional fees for the CME Group. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2025-08-08 19:38:19] |
| neevaksama - Posts: 42 |
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Thank you! I think I'm almost cleared up except for Q4, Q5. Q4. Let's say I do Data/Trade Service Settings>>Current Selected Service and set it to Rithmic yet I want to use Denali Data for trading; can I somehow do the former to satisfy prop firm's requirements yet I trade with Denali Data? Q5. Definitely going with Teton but I was just wondering if there is practical benefits between Non Teton and Teton if I'm not going to trade with the brokerage (since I just have it for the lower fees)? |
| [2025-08-08 19:47:18] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 41327 |
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Q4. That setup is fine and will work as far as the Prop Firm is concerned. The issue is that you can not use a Prop Firm to verify your non-professional status for the CME Group. To do this, you need to have your own personal, live, funded, futures trading account. Q5. The practical benefit for using Teton to get satisfy the non-professional requirement from the CME Group is that you do not have to connect to that account once a month for verification. That verification will be taken care of in the background. Otherwise, if you do not use Teton, then you would need to manually connect at least once a month. Refer to the following: Denali Exchange Data Feed: Connecting Only Once a Month to Trading Account to Support CME Group Exchange Fees For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2025-08-08 20:25:05] |
| neevaksama - Posts: 42 |
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Q4. I should have stated that this question was asked with assumption I have performed this already: Denali Exchange Data Feed: Connecting Only Once a Month to Trading Account to Support CME Group Exchange Fees - Now I'm verified - To trade Rithmic-based prop firms, I have to switch Current Selected Service: Rithmic (I can start trading prop now) - However, can I somehow use Denali data, not Rithmic data to trade. I'm aware this sounds like nonsense question but just seeing if it possible. Q5. Regardless if I register with the broker with Teton or Rithmic, I have to reconnect monthly if I'm going to trade prop firms right? Unless I have 2 copies of Sierra Chart installation? |
| [2025-08-08 20:27:35] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 41327 |
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Q4. However, can I somehow use Denali data, not Rithmic data to trade. I'm aware this sounds like nonsense question but just seeing if it possible.
Yes, and it is our recommendation. Q5. No. If you get setup with Teton with a broker, then you can keep your Sierra Chart connected to Rithmic and you do not need to do the one-a-month connection. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2025-08-08 20:43:07] |
| neevaksama - Posts: 42 |
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Q4. If I switched to Current Selected Service: Rithmic as part of prop firm requirements. - How does Sierra Chart know to use Rithmic only as a Trading Service and know that Denali should be the Data service? - Ok, I just re-read again, is it achieved with this: Global Settings >> Data/Trade Service Settings >> Common Settings >> Allow Support for Sierra Chart Data Feeds" is set to "Yes" Q5. :) |
| [2025-08-08 21:03:30] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 41327 |
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How does Sierra Chart know to use Rithmic only as a Trading Service and know that Denali should be the Data service?
This is what Sierra Chart is built to do. If you are setup to use Denali, then the system knows to use that data. If you are not setup to use Denali, then the system will try to get the data from the selected trading service. Refer to the following: Denali Exchange Data Feed: Integration with Trading Services Ok, I just re-read again, is it achieved with this: Global Settings >> Data/Trade Service Settings >> Common Settings >> Allow Support for Sierra Chart Data Feeds" is set to "Yes"
Yes and no. That does control whether or not the system will even try to look to see if the Denali Exchange Data Feed is active. If this option is set to "No", then there will not even be check, and then only the Trading Service data will be used. If it is set to "Yes", then what we stated above occurs. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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