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5s Delay in downloading intraday data after changing to new ticker without historical data

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[2025-08-06 03:35:51]
User109849 - Posts: 5
Hello Good Morning/Evening.

Feed: SC NQTV
Broker: IBKR

I'm trying to understand about the 5 second delay between changing a ticker and data download starting.

To make chart-flipping quick, I've configured to only download 5 day intraday data in 30s intervals only.
While after starting, the download only takes 1-2 seconds, but starting the download takes 5 seconds every time i change ticker.

This makes changing new tickers (for stock trading) a tid bit slower if the Historical data isn't present. If the data is present it's quite fast but since i use certain 3rd party scanners, i've to quickly flip charts and this 5 second delay is problematic.

For your reference i'm attaching 3x logs with only relevant information and reloading 1m chart on a blank chartbook.


2025-08-05 23:12:30.342 | Unset |
2025-08-05 23:12:34.057 | Unset | Enabling compression for file: C:\SierraChart_IB\Data\AVPT.scid
2025-08-05 23:12:34.058 | Chart | AVPT[M] 1 Min #1 | Reloading chart.
2025-08-05 23:12:34.069 | Chart | AVPT[M] 1 Min #1 | Currently no data in file to display. Will start historical data download and real-time updates. File: C:\SierraChart_IB\Data\AVPT.scid
2025-08-05 23:12:34.070 | Chart | AVPT[M] 1 Min #1 | Chart data loading complete.
2025-08-05 23:12:34.071 | Unset | Mapping AVPT to AVPT. Service code: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data
2025-08-05 23:12:34.071 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Starting real-time market data updates for: AVPT (AVPT). ID: 143 Service code: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data
2025-08-05 23:12:34.071 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Requesting security definition data for: AVPT (AVPT). ID: 143
2025-08-05 23:12:34.071 | Historical Data | Added historical Intraday data request for AVPT to the queue.
2025-08-05 23:12:34.071 | Unset | Intraday data recording state for symbol AVPT is set to download 'Pending'.
2025-08-05 23:12:34.071 | Historical Data | Triggering next historical data download in queue.
2025-08-05 23:12:34.071 | Historical Data | Delaying start of download for AVPT.
2025-08-05 23:12:34.133 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Setting external service identifier for symbol AVPT to 443
2025-08-05 23:12:34.133 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Received security definition for symbol AVPT
2025-08-05 23:12:39.828 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Downloading Intraday chart data for AVPT to the file AVPT.scid. Service: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data
2025-08-05 23:12:39.828 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Download start date-time: 2025-07-26 23:12:39.000000. File last date-time: 00:00:00.000000
2025-08-05 23:12:39.828 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Using server: ds30.sierracharts.com port 10149
2025-08-05 23:12:39.828 | Network | Socket (4) | Creating socket.
2025-08-05 23:12:39.828 | Network | Socket (4) | New receive buffer size: 0
2025-08-05 23:12:39.828 | Network | Socket (4) | Connecting to IP: 67.214.125.11.
2025-08-05 23:12:39.893 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Setting DTC encoding to Binary VLS
2025-08-05 23:12:39.893 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Sending historical data logon request message.
2025-08-05 23:12:39.964 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Requesting Intraday data. Start date-time: 2025-07-26 23:12:39. Record interval: 30. Symbol: AVPT
2025-08-05 23:12:39.995 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Decompressing data.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.028 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Receiving Intraday data for AVPT starting at 2025-07-28 05:03:40.642003
2025-08-05 23:12:40.137 | Network | Socket (4) | CloseSocket call.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.137 | Network | Socket (4) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.139 | Historical Data | Historical data download thread signaled to stop.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.139 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Timestamp of first Intraday data file record written: 2025-07-28 05:03:40.642003.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.139 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Received 3852 Intraday data records from 2025-07-28 05:03:40.642003 to 2025-08-05 18:40:20.978000 (8.6 days. Delay: 4.5 hours) and wrote 3852 records for AVPT
2025-08-05 23:12:40.141 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Completion time: 1s.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.141 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Intraday data download complete for AVPT. Unique request ID: 2542
2025-08-05 23:12:40.141 | Unset | Removing historical data download ID 2542.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.141 | Unset | Real-time Intraday chart data file updates started for AVPT
2025-08-05 23:12:40.141 | File System | Opened cached Intraday file: C:\SierraChart_IB\Data\AVPT.scid. Thread ID: 48980
2025-08-05 23:12:40.141 | Unset | Intraday chart data file opened for AVPT
2025-08-05 23:12:40.141 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Enabling Intraday chart updating for symbol.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.141 | Historical Data |
2025-08-05 23:12:40.141 | Historical Data | No download requests in the queue to start downloads for.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.166 | Network | Socket (4) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side.
2025-08-05 23:12:40.167 | Network | Socket (4) | Closed.


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2025-08-05 23:16:27.969 | Chart | BALL[M] 1 Min #1 | Reloading chart.
2025-08-05 23:16:27.986 | Chart | BALL[M] 1 Min #1 | Chart data loading complete.
2025-08-05 23:16:27.988 | Unset | Mapping BALL to BALL. Service code: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data
2025-08-05 23:16:27.988 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Starting real-time market data updates for: BALL (BALL). ID: 144 Service code: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data
2025-08-05 23:16:27.988 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Requesting security definition data for: BALL (BALL). ID: 144
2025-08-05 23:16:27.988 | Historical Data | Added historical Intraday data request for BALL to the queue.
2025-08-05 23:16:27.988 | Unset | Intraday data recording state for symbol BALL is set to download 'Pending'.
2025-08-05 23:16:27.988 | Historical Data | Triggering next historical data download in queue.
2025-08-05 23:16:27.990 | Historical Data | Delaying start of download for BALL.
2025-08-05 23:16:28.066 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Real-time data for symbol BALL is currently unavailable.
2025-08-05 23:16:28.066 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Setting external service identifier for symbol BALL to 444
2025-08-05 23:16:28.066 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Received security definition for symbol BALL
2025-08-05 23:16:33.831 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Downloading Intraday chart data for BALL to the file BALL.scid. Service: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data
2025-08-05 23:16:33.832 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Download start date-time: 2025-08-05 19:05:53.000000. File last date-time: 2025-08-05 19:05:53.000000
2025-08-05 23:16:33.832 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Using server: ds31.sierracharts.com port 10150
2025-08-05 23:16:33.832 | Network | Socket (4) | Creating socket.
2025-08-05 23:16:33.832 | Network | Socket (4) | New receive buffer size: 0
2025-08-05 23:16:33.832 | Network | Socket (4) | Connecting to IP: 64.152.155.116.
2025-08-05 23:16:33.886 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Setting DTC encoding to Binary VLS
2025-08-05 23:16:33.886 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Sending historical data logon request message.
2025-08-05 23:16:33.951 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Requesting Intraday data. Start date-time: 2025-08-05 19:05:53. Record interval: 30. Symbol: BALL
2025-08-05 23:16:33.977 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Decompressing data.
2025-08-05 23:16:33.998 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Receiving Intraday data for BALL starting at 2025-08-05 19:05:53.983000
2025-08-05 23:16:33.999 | Network | Socket (4) | CloseSocket call.
2025-08-05 23:16:33.999 | Network | Socket (4) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close.
2025-08-05 23:16:33.999 | Historical Data | Historical data download thread signaled to stop.
2025-08-05 23:16:34.000 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Timestamp of first Intraday data file record written: 2025-08-05 19:05:53.983000.
2025-08-05 23:16:34.000 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Received 1 Intraday data record from 2025-08-05 19:05:53.983000 to 2025-08-05 19:05:53.983000 (0.0 seconds. Delay: 4.2 hours) and wrote 1 record for BALL
2025-08-05 23:16:34.002 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Completion time: 1s.
2025-08-05 23:16:34.002 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Intraday data download complete for BALL. Unique request ID: 2543
2025-08-05 23:16:34.002 | Unset | Removing historical data download ID 2543.
2025-08-05 23:16:34.002 | Unset | Real-time Intraday chart data file updates started for BALL
2025-08-05 23:16:34.002 | File System | Opened cached Intraday file: C:\SierraChart_IB\Data\BALL.scid. Thread ID: 48980
2025-08-05 23:16:34.002 | Unset | Intraday chart data file opened for BALL
2025-08-05 23:16:34.002 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Enabling Intraday chart updating for symbol.
2025-08-05 23:16:34.002 | Historical Data |
2025-08-05 23:16:34.002 | Historical Data | No download requests in the queue to start downloads for.
2025-08-05 23:16:34.022 | Network | Socket (4) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side.
2025-08-05 23:16:34.022 | Network | Socket (4) | Closed.


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2025-08-05 23:17:49.191 | System | Software version: 2775 64-bit
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | OpenGL enabled (NVIDIA Corporation/NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070/PCIe/SSE2)
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Primary Thread ID: 48980
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Usage end date: 2026-04-04
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Enabled for: Advanced Features 2.
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Enabled for: Sierra Chart Historical Data Service.
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Enabled for: Denali Real-Time Exchange Data Feed.
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Enabled for: Delayed Denali Exchange Data Feed.
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Enabled for exchange2: US Equities Consolidated Tape
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Enabled for exchange2: CBOE Global Indexes
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Allow Support for Sierra Chart Data Feeds is enabled.
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Current selected Data/Trading service: Interactive Brokers
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Custom symbol settings values: enabled
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Chart Update Interval: 10
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Intraday Data Storage Time Unit: 30
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Time Zone: -04:00:00 (EST-05EDT+01,M3.2.0/02:00,M11.1.0/02:00)
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | 2025-08-06 03:17:49 Local computer time in UTC
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | 2025-08-05 23:17:49 Local computer time in SC Time Zone
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | 2025-08-01 00:46:25 Server time in UTC
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Local computer UTC time and Server UTC time difference: 1 seconds.
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Program path: C:\SierraChart_IB\
2025-08-05 23:17:49.192 | System | Data Files path: C:\SierraChart_IB\Data\
2025-08-05 23:17:49.193 | System | OS Version Number: 10.0
2025-08-05 23:17:49.193 | System | Locale Setting: C
2025-08-05 23:17:49.193 | System | DLLs: Sierra_to_IB_64.dll, UserContributedStudies.dll, UserContributedStudies_64.dll
2025-08-05 23:17:49.193 | System | Allowed protected custom studies:
2025-08-05 23:17:49.193 | System | Crash reporter started: true
2025-08-05 23:17:49.193 | Unset |
2025-08-05 23:17:51.415 | Unset | Enabling compression for file: C:\SierraChart_IB\Data\IAC.scid
2025-08-05 23:17:51.416 | Chart | IAC[M] 1 Min #1 | Reloading chart.
2025-08-05 23:17:51.428 | Chart | IAC[M] 1 Min #1 | Currently no data in file to display. Will start historical data download and real-time updates. File: C:\SierraChart_IB\Data\IAC.scid
2025-08-05 23:17:51.429 | Chart | IAC[M] 1 Min #1 | Chart data loading complete.
2025-08-05 23:17:51.429 | Unset | Mapping IAC to IAC. Service code: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data
2025-08-05 23:17:51.430 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Starting real-time market data updates for: IAC (IAC). ID: 145 Service code: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data
2025-08-05 23:17:51.430 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Requesting security definition data for: IAC (IAC). ID: 145
2025-08-05 23:17:51.430 | Historical Data | Added historical Intraday data request for IAC to the queue.
2025-08-05 23:17:51.430 | Unset | Intraday data recording state for symbol IAC is set to download 'Pending'.
2025-08-05 23:17:51.430 | Historical Data | Triggering next historical data download in queue.
2025-08-05 23:17:51.430 | Historical Data | Delaying start of download for IAC.
2025-08-05 23:17:51.494 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Setting external service identifier for symbol IAC to 568
2025-08-05 23:17:51.494 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Received security definition for symbol IAC
2025-08-05 23:17:56.835 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Downloading Intraday chart data for IAC to the file IAC.scid. Service: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data
2025-08-05 23:17:56.835 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Download start date-time: 2025-07-26 23:17:56.000000. File last date-time: 00:00:00.000000
2025-08-05 23:17:56.835 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Using server: ds33.sierracharts.com port 10149
2025-08-05 23:17:56.835 | Network | Socket (4) | Creating socket.
2025-08-05 23:17:56.835 | Network | Socket (4) | New receive buffer size: 0
2025-08-05 23:17:56.835 | Network | Socket (4) | Connecting to IP: 69.39.70.245.
2025-08-05 23:17:56.899 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Setting DTC encoding to Binary VLS
2025-08-05 23:17:56.899 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Sending historical data logon request message.
2025-08-05 23:17:56.971 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Requesting Intraday data. Start date-time: 2025-07-26 23:17:56. Record interval: 30. Symbol: IAC
2025-08-05 23:17:56.998 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Decompressing data.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.032 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Receiving Intraday data for IAC starting at 2025-07-28 09:30:01.289000
2025-08-05 23:17:57.114 | Network | Socket (4) | CloseSocket call.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.114 | Network | Socket (4) | Shutdown started. Waiting for graceful close.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.115 | Historical Data | Historical data download thread signaled to stop.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.116 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Timestamp of first Intraday data file record written: 2025-07-28 09:30:01.289000.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.116 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Received 3553 Intraday data records from 2025-07-28 09:30:01.289000 to 2025-08-05 19:19:30.353001 (8.4 days. Delay: 4.0 hours) and wrote 3553 records for IAC
2025-08-05 23:17:57.118 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Completion time: 1s.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.118 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Intraday data download complete for IAC. Unique request ID: 2544
2025-08-05 23:17:57.118 | Unset | Removing historical data download ID 2544.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.118 | Unset | Real-time Intraday chart data file updates started for IAC
2025-08-05 23:17:57.118 | File System | Opened cached Intraday file: C:\SierraChart_IB\Data\IAC.scid. Thread ID: 48980
2025-08-05 23:17:57.118 | Unset | Intraday chart data file opened for IAC
2025-08-05 23:17:57.118 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Enabling Intraday chart updating for symbol.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.118 | Historical Data |
2025-08-05 23:17:57.118 | Historical Data | No download requests in the queue to start downloads for.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.143 | Network | Socket (4) | Socket gracefully closed by remote side.
2025-08-05 23:17:57.143 | Network | Socket (4) | Closed.

Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-08-06 03:38:04
[2025-08-06 13:53:38]
John - SC Support - Posts: 41327
From the logs, the time it takes to download the missing data is 1 second in each case. You can see this from this from this statement in the logs:
Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Completion time: 1s.

But, in general, there is going to be some time to download the data and load the chart. We can not say why you are seeing a 5 second delay specifically, but it does not sound like this is unusual for what is occurring.

Our recommendation is to use the "Intraday File Update List" in order to have the data downloaded for all the stocks that you will be going through. Refer to the following:
Global Settings Menu: Intraday File Update List (Global Settings menu)
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2025-08-06 15:25:52]
User109849 - Posts: 5
Hi John
Thank you for the answer. I'll look into "Intraday File Update List"

But to be specific, my question was about these lines, there seems to be 5 seconds every time on change, specially when i load a new ticker that's not on the list already and for which no data SCID file is present.


2025-08-05 23:12:34.133 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Received security definition for symbol AVPT
2025-08-05 23:12:39.828 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2267 | Downloading Intraday chart data for AVPT to the file AVPT.scid. Service: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data


2025-08-05 23:16:28.066 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Received security definition for symbol BALL
2025-08-05 23:16:33.831 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2268 | Downloading Intraday chart data for BALL to the file BALL.scid. Service: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data


2025-08-05 23:17:51.494 | External Service | Denali Data Feed | Received security definition for symbol IAC
2025-08-05 23:17:56.835 | Historical Data | HD Request # 2269 | Downloading Intraday chart data for IAC to the file IAC.scid. Service: us_equities_utp_cta_exchange.data

Once this is initiated the actual completion time is 1s (max 2s), which seems to be excellent. It's just this 5s delay that causes some slowness on flipping.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-08-06 15:35:35
[2025-08-06 15:43:14]
John - SC Support - Posts: 41327
There is going to be time for the system to get everything setup and downloaded. If you are seeing a 5 second delay, then this is going to be what it is in your case. The only way to improve this is to use the "Intraday File Update List". But even then, there will be some time to load a chart.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2025-08-06 16:30:50]
User109849 - Posts: 5
Hi John,

"Intraday File Update List" is indeed helpful, adding some tickers to it and with my settings flipping is quite fast.
Thanks for the update.
[2025-08-06 16:38:56]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 20651
The delay is normal and relates to time to buffer real-time data which ensures there is no missing data. We will not going to background details but a delay of about 5 seconds is inserted.


The way around this is to use the Global Settings >> Intraday File Update List.

Here is the documentation about this:
Historical Intraday Data (Missing Data / Download Errors / Viewing More Data): Initial Delay with Downloading Historical Intraday Data for Symbol
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2025-08-06 17:15:15
[2025-08-06 21:05:13]
User109849 - Posts: 5
For someone trading futures with limited tickers changing this 5s delay time isn't required and would not benefit them.
But for someone trading stocks and flipping through multiple charts this would be quite handy.

Is it possible to add a feature in upcoming releases where this can be configured manually?
[2025-08-06 21:58:47]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 20651
No absolutely not.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2025-08-07 00:59:21]
User109849 - Posts: 5
Thanks for your assistance.

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