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AMP and SC Direct routing

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[2021-12-11 19:57:16]
ertrader - Posts: 648
Is there any update on when AMP may support SC direct routing?
[2021-12-12 13:57:53]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We have no idea. Consider using a different broker.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
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For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
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[2021-12-16 23:17:20]
ertrader - Posts: 648
I have opened an Advantage account and am moving funds there.
[2021-12-16 23:24:52]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Yes that will be just fine.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2022-01-16 19:22:32]
ertrader - Posts: 648
My Advantage account with SC/Teton order routing is up and running and I've completed several trades. Everything seems to be working well. The people at Advantage have been very good to work with.

However, from an account management TECHNOLOGY perspective, new Advantage users may want to know the account signup and account management processes are rather manual (downloading PDFs, signing manually, scanning and emailing signed PDF files and statements are distributed nightly to an FTP server) This resulted in many back and forth and lost emails, a few errors on my part and extra days getting things all set up.

Funding was fast without any issues.

On another topic, the SC web trade account access is working well, showing everything in real time and provides a way to get to your trades if something happens. Actually, this week, I had an internet outage, my backup internet would not kick in and I had to get to trades to close out using a portable hotspot for internet. It's the first time ever this has happened but SC web trade account worked great from the hotspot.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-01-16 19:56:45
[2022-01-19 18:21:34]
User379468 - Posts: 508
Has anyone been able to get commissions at Advantage competitive to Amp and decent intraday margins?
[2022-01-19 19:14:27]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We recommend checking with Stage 5 who is an introducing broker for Advantage.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2022-01-21 04:59:00]
ertrader - Posts: 648
I'm very happy with Advantage/Teton pricing so far but looking into better pricing. Advantage is $1 per side for mini's. .40 per side for Micros. Support and response to emails excellent. These are standard, non-promoted prices.

Per Micro round trip from today's trading:(MES: Buy 1, Sell 1)
Commission: .80
Clearing Fee: .10
Exchange fee: .40
NFA Fee: .04
Total: $1.34
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-01-21 20:47:54
[2022-01-21 15:22:27]
ertrader - Posts: 648
Got quotes from Stage 5 on their promotion and they are even better. All-in rates on MES: $0.20/contract commission + $0.25/contract exchange fee + $0.02/contract NFA fee = $0.47/contract or $0.94/round turn all-in.
[2022-01-21 15:46:53]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Thank you for this.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2022-01-21 19:23:20]
User113630 - Posts: 8
Got quotes from Stage 5 on their promotion and they are even better.
What about the day trading margins?
[2022-01-21 20:38:28]
ertrader - Posts: 648
Here is what I received from Stage 5 regarding margins today. Much better than what I am getting directly with Advantage so I am looking into it too.

"Intraday margins are typically 20% of exchange initial margin with the exception of US index futures which are only 5%. ES, as an example is currently $12,650/contract initial margin which makes intraday $633/contract. For MES it would be $63/contract but we do have a $200 minimum account balance that must be maintained."
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-01-21 21:13:41
[2022-01-21 21:25:38]
User243218 - Posts: 1
how good is customer support at STAGE 5
[2022-01-21 21:40:21]
ertrader - Posts: 648
Others please chime in...I'm looking into Stage 5 myself.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-01-21 21:41:44
[2022-01-21 21:41:36]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Maybe we are getting the best treatment, but we find they are very fast to respond to emails.

Service has been very good.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2022-01-21 21:50:07]
Stage 5 Trading - Posts: 152
Stage 5 prides ourselves on the quality and level of service we provide to traders. Below you will find a trader's experience on Teton with Stage 5. We received this today.

Thanks for the email. In phrase, I am over the moon based on my experiences with Stage5/Teton/Sierra. I use level 2 data, and what I have now looks rock solid. I have been using Sierra for years, and your team made the set up easy and painless. I have tested switching over, symbol changeover when changing connections is faultless. I want to spend more time with the new service, but I can tell you your team are brilliant to deal with, and compared to AMP/CQG, what you offer is much better in comparison. Over the coming months Stage5 will end up operating as my main account. Very happy to recommend to others I know. What you and Sierra can offer now is a game changer. Thanks again for reaching out.



All the best



Patrick


Stage 5 Trading is a brokerage firm that firmly stands behind Teton Order Routing and are here to help in anyway that we can. Teton Order Routing is available through Stage 5 Trading as a no transaction fee solution for traders. We can enable your account on the high-quality order routing service with advanced risk management from Sierra Chart immediately!

If you are ready to move to the Teton Order Routing solution right away, we invite you to file an application here: https://stage5trading.com/

Please feel free to contact us and we will gladly assist you with the process of transitioning and hopefully helping you improve your current issues.

If you have questions or would like to speak to an assigned personal broker for details, please call us at 312-896-9897 or 1-800-258-6675. You can email us at sierrachart@s5trading.com and can also contact us here: https://stage5trading.com/contact/

Both Sierra Chart and Stage 5 work closely to hopefully provide traders the best solutions and value for their unique trading goals.

Thank you,
Anthony Giacomin



Trading derivatives carries a high degree of risk, and may not be suitable for all investors. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. Testimonials are not necessarily indicative of future performance or success and may not represent the opinion of all participants. There was no compensation to the trader for this opinion.
[2022-01-22 17:01:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Regarding the testimonial/experience at post #16, thank you Patrick for that.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2022-02-04 21:01:37]
ertrader - Posts: 648
I have successfully moved my account to Stage 5/Advantage and am very happy. As an introducing broker, Stage 5 arranged very competitive margins and commissions so I realigned my account from Advantage only to Stage 5/Advantage. I did not know the improved margins and commissions when I opened my account directly with Advantage so it took some additional time moving funds.

The Stage 5 contract is nearly identical to the Advantage contract except that Stage 5 has made the process completely electronic (including signatures) and much more streamlined.

I am very happy with Dave Hacke at Advantage and AJ Wusterfeld at Stage 5. They were both very responsive and helpful guiding me through the steps. Teton order routing performance is great... has been keeping up with the fast moves lately and commissions and margins are very competitive!

Next is to move my other ADMIS account to an FCM and broker that supports Teton. Please keep up the great work!
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-02-07 03:25:20
[2022-02-09 20:22:59]
ertrader - Posts: 648
Support, if I have 2 accounts with the same FCM (Advantage) through broker Stage 5 (one margin, the other an IRA), will this cause any issues with Denali/Teton?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-02-09 20:23:46
[2022-02-09 22:58:49]
cmet - Posts: 538
Just my two cents but Morad Askar (FT71), the guy who runs Stage 5, is probably one of the best guys you'll come across in this business. True trader. Economics of the business aside, he's genuinely interested in clients doing well.
[2022-02-09 23:45:27]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
No, this has no relevancy:
will this cause any issues with Denali/Teton?

Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2022-02-10 09:14:40]
AD544 - Posts: 64
Just my two cents but Morad Askar (FT71), the guy who runs Stage 5, is probably one of the best guys you'll come across in this business. True trader. Economics of the business aside, he's genuinely interested in clients doing well.

Morad Askar is the founder of EDGE CLEAR a new futures brokerage firm
He was joined with Stage 5 years ago, but after disagreements with Anthony Giacomin he left Stage 5
[2022-02-10 18:23:33]
cmet - Posts: 538
Anthony is a good guy too (just a broker though). I remember when he was hired. If Morad is not there anymore, it's unlikely there are any traders involved in management. I noticed their site doesn't even list who is involved there. If Morad is solely focusing on EdgeClear now, I would consider that option first. Again, just my two cents.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-02-10 18:26:25
[2022-02-10 20:46:55]
FuturesTrader71 - Posts: 4
@cmet,

This is FuturesTrader71 (Morad Askar). I have no affiliation with Stage 5 Trading and haven't for some time. The entire team I worked with when I was there has left.

I'm the founder and sole owner of Edge Clear https://edgeclear.com/sierrachart. The brokers who were at Stage 5 Trading joined me Edge Clear in September 2019 and are the key component of launching Edge Clear to its current success. Edge Clear was actually created for the team by the team.

Please reach out to me at https://edgeclear.com/contact-us and indicate that you wish to connect with me directly. I'm happy to personally answer any questions.

Edge Clear is the new standard in a trader-inspired brokerage firm. They offer Sierra Chart along with all of its features including Teton order routing. Edge Clear's personally assigned brokers are also traders who understand what it is like dealing with the market day in and day out. They trade futures, options, and crypto. They aren't simply salesmen. I take great pride in this. Every one of Edge Clear's personnel goes through trading education.

You will find Edge Clear's team responsive, innovative, and knowledgeable. The team is led by Max Timmins who is an outstanding director and leader. I'm very proud of every team member and every trader who becomes a member of Edge Clear.

As part of your due diligence, I highly recommend that you first speak with multiple brokerages prior to completing account documents. Cheap is never best nor the only criteria a trader must consider. Market losses will likely far outweigh fees.

Please call Edge Clear with questions at 773-832-8320 / 1-844-872-3320.

I look forward to having you join the team at Edge Clear or for them to have the opportunity to point you in the right direction.



FuturesTrader71

Derivatives trading is not suitable for all investors. Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-02-10 20:51:23
[2022-02-10 21:27:37]
theunknowntrader - Posts: 112
I have been with EdgeClear for over a month now.

Ian is great!

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