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topstep using sierra chart

[2020-08-26 16:24:21]
User389151 - Posts: 37 | Ending Date: 2020-10-26 [Expired]
Hi Im interested in trading with topstep using sierrachart (with heatmap and footprint). topstep told me I can't use sierrachart because they no longer support rithmic data feed. Is there any way around this? I'm using amp futures from toronto, if that's any help. thanks
[2020-08-26 17:26:33]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
No way around this.
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[2020-08-26 18:29:03]
User389151 - Posts: 37 | Ending Date: 2020-10-26 [Expired]
do you know another funding company that would work?
[2020-08-26 19:32:25]
User964132 - Posts: 83 | Ending Date: 2021-05-20
I asked Topstep as well if they could supply another data feed, so we could use sierra charts, I know there are several people working on their strategies with sierra charts as their platform, and they do not know jet that Topstep doesn't fund via Sierra charts anymore :-( Would be nice if SC would help to find an solution, but as it stands now, I might have to leave SC..
[2020-08-26 22:02:52]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
There may be a solution here involving Rithmic. We are discussing this with Rithmic. We do not have a definite answer yet. Hopefully, we will know in a few days.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-08-27 18:23:19
[2020-08-27 07:54:48]
User964132 - Posts: 83 | Ending Date: 2021-05-20
Thank you!

Would really like a solution here (as all parties can benefit from this!!
[2020-08-27 10:48:36]
User389151 - Posts: 37 | Ending Date: 2020-10-26 [Expired]
seems from my research none of the big funding companies support sierra chart. It's better to leave Sierra Chart, unless sierra chart can help find a solution soon.
[2020-08-27 19:20:41]
SC Support - Posts: 636 | Ending Date: 2021-08-26
Hi there User389151, we can speak if you have time, assuming you wish to make the case for us. Thank you
[2020-08-27 20:41:26]
User389151 - Posts: 37 | Ending Date: 2020-10-26 [Expired]
sure I would like to speak if you think you have a solution for me to be able to trade with a funding company and stay on sierra chart. you have contact number?
[2020-08-27 20:53:56]
User814219 - Posts: 37 | Ending Date: 2020-12-31 [Expired]
I pleaded with Topsteptrader yesterday to offer an Rithmic-alternative to Sierrachart users so that people could use Sierrachart with them but the final answer they gave was no.

I was a bit surprised they weren't willing to budge b/c I assumed most Topsteptrader users would be using Sierrachart and that would cut into their profits quite a bit.
[2020-08-27 20:57:42]
User389151 - Posts: 37 | Ending Date: 2020-10-26 [Expired]
I think earn2trade is possible using some kind of bridge connection, but at your own risk if you get any issue, because sierra chart wont help with any support
[2020-08-27 22:37:01]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
We want to bring your attention again to post #5. We will hear from Rithmic in a couple of days about a better interface between Sierra Chart and Rithmic.
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[2020-08-28 02:32:12]
User701453 - Posts: 171 | Ending Date: 2018-02-13 [Expired]
We want to bring your attention again to post #5. We will hear from Rithmic in a couple of days about a better interface between Sierra Chart and Rithmic.
Excellent.
I have SC and Infinity Futures as the broker.
I would like to keep my personal account with Infinity while I'm trading to get some funded accounts with Earn2Trade and LeeLoo.
However they both only offer Rithmic as the data feed.

Was thinking I will have to move to NinjaTrader and spend months converting all my required custom coded indicators and strats to Ninjascript/C#.
I would gain the ability to optimize input variables on my automated strats with Ninja Trader, it would be a huge leap forward for SC if this ability was provided in their platform.
[2020-08-28 19:14:48]
ertrader - Posts: 400 | Ending Date: 2021-07-04
This is good to hear regarding Rithmic. There are several in the professional trading group I work with that are already evaluating an alternative non-SC and non-Ninja solution.
[2020-08-29 07:26:24]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
There are several in the professional trading group I work with that are already evaluating an alternative non-SC and non-Ninja solution.
This is fine. We are not going to do anything to keep this business other than helping Rithmic with the DTC protocol. And offering alternatives.

Although we would say, that Sierra Chart is a good platform for them to work with. Either they or Rithmic can just simply utilize the DTC protocol and have immediately plug-and-play compatibility with the Rithmic system. This is so simple. We are going to maintain our principles and proper standards.

It really is so simple for Rithmic to simply utilize their existing websocket Server that uses Google protocol buffer encoding and just simply add the DTC messages.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-08-29 07:51:57
[2020-08-30 04:41:14]
User701453 - Posts: 171 | Ending Date: 2018-02-13 [Expired]
Sierra Chart is a good platform
Any plans to add the ability to optimize input variables of strats to bring SC to the level of NinjaTrader, Tradestation, Multicharts?
[2020-08-30 08:40:26]
User267701 - Posts: 66 | Ending Date: 2021-04-14 [Expired]
Its understandable that they have no intention to f*** things up by implementing a new protocol they have no experience with. They consider the risk and the return of the invested time on top of the risk. Its kinda a big deal for them...and for their customers, who give a damn thing about the intentions if things go wrong.

But i also would like to be able to use SC with one of these evaluation services if needed.

The problem is, SC has the superior standard but the industry doesnt care. SC did put alot of money and time into their own data feed and FINALLY!!!!!! a decade long struggle ends. Just so they can continue to deal with all this inferior BS? I dont think so. And yes, unification is needed across the whole industry but is not desired by some big guys...makes competition harder and so each one sticks with his own ecosystem..

But if one wants to stay in the game and cant/wont compromise any longer for good reasons, then you might be forced to offer some of the existing stuff yourself...this may reduce the stress level but not sure about the workload. Only in the longrun it pays off for sure.

I just wish stuff would happen faster. I wonder what comes next after millisec format. My bet is SC's own orderrouting via direct link. But i am also waiting for the promissed trading journal functionality...this would be a big PLUS! In the end, SC works on their own exchange. To me, this sounds crazy...but well, i cant judge that.

I just dont know what Rithmic is offering as features for those evaluation companies. If its convenient as f*** to work with Rithmic then nobody in those evaluation companies is going even a single step back so SC can get again into the basket of supported platforms. Its really up to SC and Rithmic to find a lasting solution.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-08-30 13:40:54
[2020-09-07 16:50:20]
User701453 - Posts: 171 | Ending Date: 2018-02-13 [Expired]
We want to bring your attention again to post #5. We will hear from Rithmic in a couple of days about a better interface between Sierra Chart and Rithmic.

Its been more than a few days.
Any update on getting SC to consume Rithmic data?
[2020-09-07 21:53:58]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
No Rithmic has not said anything further to us at this time regarding this. We will be following up this week.
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[2020-09-11 07:01:51]
User267701 - Posts: 66 | Ending Date: 2021-04-14 [Expired]
any news?
[2020-09-11 08:43:21]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
Not yet. But we have a call on Monday related to this.
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[2020-09-18 07:19:35]
User155105 - Posts: 3 | Ending Date: 2021-04-25
I just started a topstep swing account and was able to trade using SC.
Am also watching order flow and it works good for me.
Still using the old SC version with the added files.
Service: Rithmic Trading
Server: Rithmic Topstep Trader (Europe)

While I understand the SC team, there is undoubtedly a boom of traders using funding companies to learn instead of risking their own capital, because only a small fraction is able to make profit in trading - ever. Maybe one would on average be still better off losing the money invested into subscriptions and resets by simply trading micros on his own account, but we all know how psychology works. If you would be smart, you would offer your own funding company with much more reasonable trailing rules like the current competitors and would profit from this boom...

If you consider such plans or would offer such a service for "resellers"/companies like E2T/OUP/TST I would really be interested to hear about those plans, feel free to drop me a mail in case...
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-09-18 07:44:26
[2020-09-18 14:07:53]
User267701 - Posts: 66 | Ending Date: 2021-04-14 [Expired]
Couldnt find any news regarding Rithmic. Did you guys find a lasting solution on the protocol front?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-09-18 14:08:27
[2020-09-21 17:07:34]
User267701 - Posts: 66 | Ending Date: 2021-04-14 [Expired]
I did find out, that SC wont comment on Rithmic anymore/for the time being?!?

Looks like Rithmic is not pleased with a publically raging SC support.

However, it looks like as if they actually work on a solution behind the curtain.

I HOPE SC has at least the freedom to assure us here that they will give us further notice once things are done.

So all can be at peace knowing the Rithmic saga is not finished but is actually still under developement.


SC???
[2020-09-21 20:44:49]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
Post #24 is quite close to the truth.
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[2020-09-22 14:14:27]
fxzen - Posts: 8 | Ending Date: 2021-08-25
I did reach out to TopStep and got this reply back.

"Unfortunately, if a new Trading Combine is started, there is no option to select Sierra Charts due to new accounts not being able to create on their platform. We can only keep existing Trading Combines that are currently running Sierra Charts active. I do apologize for the inconvenience. "

I'll still be using SC for my live account and data, but hopefully we can get some resolution soon, I really do not want to spend the time trying to emulate my needs using an inferior platform. Please let us know if there is anything we can do to push Rithmic to grease the wheels on this.

Thanks
[2020-09-25 05:03:12]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
Please let us know if there is anything we can do to push Rithmic to grease the wheels on this.
Not really sure.
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[2020-10-05 16:04:33]
ertrader - Posts: 400 | Ending Date: 2021-07-04
Have there been any updates regarding Rithmic?
[2020-10-05 16:10:19]
j4ytr4der_ - Posts: 334 | Ending Date: 2021-04-29
Another voice in the choir here. Rithmic, if you're reading this (and it sounds as if you are?), you have a lot of active and potentially active customers who are desperately needing you to work with SC on a solution to this. I'm another one who is currently stuck with a combine using Rithmic, that I can't really work with properly because I'm a SC user and going to stay that way as there is no better platform for what I do.

Please Rithmic, work with whomever you need to, on whatever you need to, to advance the entire industry in a positive direction with full native support for SC. We are all waiting on the edges of our seats.
[2020-11-11 10:23:54]
User964132 - Posts: 83 | Ending Date: 2021-05-20
Any news on the Rithmic data connection? I saw that the zip files for the bridge connection also disappeared from the SC forum, Does anybody still has these zip files?
I am on a trading combine with the Sierra Charts platform, and since my Graphics card broke down, I reinstalled my computer. Now I can't get the bridge files anymore?? to have my combine working again.. :-(
Any suggestions how to solve this?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-11-11 10:27:08
[2020-11-11 14:58:06]
John - SC Support - Posts: 7168 | Ending Date: 2022-04-04
You will find the bridge files here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=54517
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-11-11 17:02:41
[2020-11-11 19:45:43]
User138602 - Posts: 168 | Ending Date: 2020-12-02 [Expired]
In some post SC support wrote the interface problem with Rithmic would be an easy fix within 1 or 2 weeks of coding.
I wonder what is going on behind the curtain if anything at this point.
[2020-11-11 21:46:00]
User138602 - Posts: 168 | Ending Date: 2020-12-02 [Expired]
Nah....afaik, the "own exchange" project is on ice.
[2020-11-12 04:36:41]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
In some post SC support wrote the interface problem with Rithmic would be an easy fix within 1 or 2 weeks of coding.
We think what you might be referring to is that should not take more than a couple of weeks of work to create a basic interface, for trading, using the DTC protocol.

Rithmic is working on a direct interface to Sierra Chart using the DTC protocol. We do not know what the status of that is.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-11-12 04:37:37
[2021-01-06 02:56:55]
User826383 - Posts: 4 | Ending Date: 2021-07-12
I am another voice in the choir here,but waking up late about SC not available for Topstep: joining with j4ytr4der, User389151, User964132, User814219, User701453, ertrader, User267701, User155105, fxzen, User138602,appreciate John-SC support for posting the bridge files. Thanks John.
Tried Topstep 5 years ago and failed the combine using Sierra Charts for my first time. Got hooked on that trading on the chart style. Previously used TS, CQG, and Multicharts. SC is quality no doubt about it. But trading isn't about quality just P&L. So quality that uses less horsepower than any of them others plus code writing for beginners was learnable doesn't matter much either. There is always fresh meat for the markets to grind up and throw away. I hate to leave SC but if Rithmic can't work something out then will employ a workaround. Best of luck to all of you and good hunting.
[2021-01-06 14:26:19]
mazzy /| blast - Posts: 54 | Ending Date: 2021-05-18
Regarding post #34, any update ?

Meanwhile, since many FT programs (TopStep, LeelooTrading, OneUpTrader, etc) rely on the Ninja + Rithmic combo, is there any kind of 3rd party bridge available between SC and NinjaTrader maybe ?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-01-06 16:20:03
[2021-01-06 18:09:05]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
Rithmic is actively working on new integration for Sierra Chart using the DTC protocol.

We heard from them as soon as yesterday in regards to technical questions.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-01-06 18:09:20
[2021-03-29 19:34:46]
Matt NL - Posts: 63 | Ending Date: 2021-10-20
Adding my voice here to follow. Want to join TopStep but they don't yet allow Sierra Chart.

Do you guys have any update from Rithmic since January?
[2021-03-29 19:39:27]
Dean Roberts - Posts: 11 | Ending Date: 2021-06-03
Hi Support

Any update on the Rithmic option please? I'm currently using TradingView on Topstep so going to have to give up my Sierra membership if it can't be supported.

Many thanks

Dean
[2021-03-29 20:09:17]
User111634 - Posts: 9 | Ending Date: 2021-04-20 [Expired]
Asked the same question on a different thread but didn't get an answer.

Any update on Rithmic's new integration? Looking to start a Topstep combine but can't use Sierrachart.
[2021-03-29 20:24:32]
j4ytr4der_ - Posts: 334 | Ending Date: 2021-04-29
Can't use SC... why not? Rithmic works fine currently, I haven't done TopStep but I thought they used Rithmic like everyone else...?
[2021-03-29 20:34:08]
fxzen - Posts: 8 | Ending Date: 2021-08-25
Can't use SC... why not? Rithmic works fine currently, I haven't done TopStep but I thought they used Rithmic like everyone else...?

It's because the Rithmic bridge is deprecated, no longer supported and will be removed at some point, so there is an ongoing process to get switched to the DTC protocol.

TopStep went ahead and stopped Sierra Chart from being an option for new combines and accounts due to this, there may be more to it but that's the jist of it and my understanding.

I'm waiting too, and now that i'm fully funded at TopStep i've cancelled my Denali feed with Sierra as I plan on just trading the funded for now instead of my own money. When my next Sierra renewal comes up I will likely not continue that either if it's not resolved by then, which is in roughly 5 months. I really hope they work it out as Sierra is hands above better then the other options.
[2021-03-29 21:26:22]
John - SC Support - Posts: 7168 | Ending Date: 2022-04-04
Rithmic is working on the new interface, not us. Therefore, you would need to check with Rithmic on how the work is going.
[2021-03-29 21:27:18]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 95944 | Ending Date: 2022-04-10
Regarding Rithmic and the DTC protocol, Rithmic has completed that development, and we are doing testing now. So hopefully it is just a matter of a week or so before this is released.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-03-29 21:27:25
[2021-03-29 21:36:02]
Dean Roberts - Posts: 11 | Ending Date: 2021-06-03
Wooohooo... fantastic, thanks guys.
[2021-03-30 00:06:17]
Ticks - Posts: 17 | Ending Date: 2020-11-28 [Expired]
Very Good News.
[2021-03-30 07:56:37]
Matt NL - Posts: 63 | Ending Date: 2021-10-20
Great news indeed! Thanks
[2021-04-07 08:07:37]
Matt NL - Posts: 63 | Ending Date: 2021-10-20
Hi guys
just wonder how this is going? Trying to decide what to do with Sierra/Amp/Topstep etc now. Need to decide this week.

Thanks
Matt
[2021-04-08 09:12:55]
Acro - Posts: 404 | Ending Date: 2021-04-24
I noticed there was a new option in the data trade services dialog for "Rithmic Direct DTC" but that this is not enabled for my package.

See Screenshot.

Is this the new mechanism to connect to Rithmic and when will we able to use it ?

Thanks
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[2021-04-08 15:31:03]
John - SC Support - Posts: 7168 | Ending Date: 2022-04-04
When the testing is complete and approved, then that will be the new connection to Rithmic, but we are still testing.
[2021-04-09 08:06:51]
Acro - Posts: 404 | Ending Date: 2021-04-24
Thanks John.

One last question - will this new connection be a plug in into R Trader Pro or is it only a direct connection ??
[2021-04-10 03:57:53]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 1036 | Ending Date: 2021-09-29
or is it only a direct connection ??
It is a direct connection.
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[2021-04-21 14:45:48]
Dean Roberts - Posts: 11 | Ending Date: 2021-06-03
Hi John, any further news on the testing yet please?
Much appreciated
D
[2021-04-21 14:56:44]
John - SC Support - Posts: 7168 | Ending Date: 2022-04-04
Testing is complete, but we are still waiting on some information from Rithmic. We are almost there, but these things always have a few last minute items that need to get cleaned up.
[2021-04-21 15:20:16]
Dean Roberts - Posts: 11 | Ending Date: 2021-06-03
Thanks John, really appreciate it.

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