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How to enter bracket order with predetermend prices using Trade Window

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[2020-05-19 08:37:42]
User189132 - Posts: 63
Hi,

How to enter simple bracket order without using offset using Trade Window? Here is the example of the order

Parent Order : Sell X of quantity 1 at 1760 with stop limit and stop child orders
Child 1 Stop Limit: Buy X with Stop Price 1770 and Limit Price 1780
Child 2 Stop : Buy X with Stop Price 1781

?
[2020-05-19 18:17:21]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
It sounds like you are looking for this option:
Attached Orders: Offset Values

Specifically you want to use: Actual Price(1), Price Offset(2-4)
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-05-19 18:43:25
[2020-05-20 06:29:44]
User189132 - Posts: 63
This option does not let me enter Limit Price, I have to put/calculate offset myself in order get correct Limit Price
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-05-20 06:30:11
[2020-05-20 09:54:53]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
It does support entering the actual limit price. Not sure you how you are coming to the conclusion otherwise.
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[2020-05-20 10:06:47]
User189132 - Posts: 63
See attached screen shots
In confirmation dialog limit price is 20.500 based on offset that is defined in Set tab.
If I set offset to 0 Limit and Stop prices are the same.
I want to set offset to 0 and be able to define manually my limit and stop prices.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-05-20 10:07:37
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[2020-05-21 00:34:02]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We tested this and what you enter for the "Stop Offset" and "Limit Offset" is the actual price with this setting: Actual Price(1), Price Offset(2-4)
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[2020-05-21 05:31:33]
User189132 - Posts: 63
Please provide step by step instructions that I can see what I am doing incorrectly.
[2020-05-25 21:11:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
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[2020-05-28 07:14:27]
User189132 - Posts: 63
Hi,
I subscribed for entire year for Advanced package. Show me your magic :-)
[2020-05-28 21:12:23]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
What we will do is put together a Trade Window Configuration file for you. Can you give us an example of the symbol you are trading.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-05-28 21:12:32
[2020-05-29 21:09:33]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14092
As we go through this, this is not exactly supported:
Parent Order : Sell X of quantity 1 at 1760 with stop limit and stop child orders
Child 1 Stop Limit: Buy X with Stop Price 1770 and Limit Price 1780
Child 2 Stop : Buy X with Stop Price 1781

Once the stop is triggered at 1770 and the price were to move immediately up to 1780 and then beyond and then you want to get out with a stop market at 1781 or higher, then effectively this is just the same as using a stop market at 1770.

We do not see any benefit to the configuration that you have. We put together a trade window configuration using a stop limit order with a 21 tick offset for the limit price.

Refer to the attached Trade Window Config file. Instructions:
Basic Trading and the Trade Window: Using a Trade Window Configuration File Provided to You
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[2020-05-31 14:53:09]
User189132 - Posts: 63
Re>"effectively this is just the same as using a stop market at 1770."

Per my understanding (let me know if I am wrong) what you are saying is incorrect.A Stop limit order has two components:
Stop price: when it is reached the Limit Order is sent to the exchange
Limit price: the execution price of the limit order.

Therefore when Limit Order is NOT executed due to market conditions, the previous Stop order is already done, that's why I want to have additional Stop order that should turn into market order at the stop order price.
[2020-06-03 06:20:31]
User189132 - Posts: 63
Hi,

I am waiting for response to my previous reply.

Thank you
[2020-06-03 07:25:05]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Yes your understanding at post 12 is correct, but we do not see how it is helping to have a Stop-Limit and then just beyond that another Stop order. Other users can comment on this as well.
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[2020-06-03 08:07:02]
User189132 - Posts: 63
Consider following scenario:

Stop Limit order: Stop PX= 18, Limit PX=18.1
Market hits PX=18 the Limit order is submitted to the exchange.
Market stops trading at 18.05.
When trading resumes market starts at 18.2. The limit order with PX= 18.1 won't get executed but I want to flatten position. When I have a child Stop order 18.15 the market order will be sent to the exchange.

Does it make sense?

May be other way to think about it: Stop and Stop Limit should cancel each other when one of them is executed
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-06-03 12:05:41
[2020-06-08 05:13:09]
User189132 - Posts: 63
Hi,

I am waiting for reply to my comment above.
[2020-06-12 08:55:31]
User189132 - Posts: 63
June 10 and 11 for GCQ20 was good use case to what we are discussing here.
On June 10th market closed at 1720.2 on 11th market opened at 1746.2.
Stop Limit Loss Order at 1730 would have been on the market but not executed.
OCO Stop Loss order at 1735 would have cancelled the Stop Limit Loss Order and placed Market Order.

Does it make sense?
If yes how can I achieve it?

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