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Bar icons default option (2065)

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[2020-03-13 10:39:12]
User390455 - Posts: 56
Hello,
You have chanhe default TEXTE vs default PICTURE.

I know I can change indivilualy all button.
Control Bar: Control Bar Button Properties


But, a good idea can be add an option for Global Settings >> Customize Control Bars >> Control Bar 1 - 8
Global default Picture (like version 2063 and before) or default Text (like 2065) for each Control Bar.


For a new User, who discover for the first time Sierra Chart, text only is not really pretty and very confused. A picture is more clear than random text.
In my view, a default Picture mode like (2063) and a easy solution for change in default TEXT mode is a smartest approche (and litle more Marketing (convertion to customer) and Simple new user.).
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-03-13 10:49:22
[2020-03-13 10:48:42]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
For a new User, who discover for the first time Sierra Chart, text only is not really pretty and very confused.
We definitively do not agree with this at all. The text is much much clear and is scalable across different resolutions without any trouble.

And the text is not random for the Tools. The tool names are clearly given. They are partially abbreviated but they are clear. We should really update all the other buttons, to be multiline, and use abbreviated words. Rather than single letter abbreviations (Meaning one letter per each word). We will eventually work on that.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-03-13 11:15:05
[2020-03-13 10:50:44]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
The images have been an ongoing issue on high resolution monitors and with particular color configurations. They simply are too small and/or not well visible. They are completely unacceptable.

The use of graphic images are inherently faulty. Text is superior in every way and is so easily scaled.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-03-13 10:52:48
[2020-03-13 12:28:50]
User390455 - Posts: 56
You have solve a issue (for high resolution monitors) is fine. An I can change Text to Icon in (Global Settings >> Customize Control Bars >> Control Bar 1 - 8) is also good news.
This can be better if you dev a option for always chose IMAGES or TEXT for default in a control Bar.


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The rest of my post is due of my understanding of Neuroscience

Neuroscience
The fact that 90% of information transmitted to the brain is visual, and visuals are processed in the brain at 60,000 times the speed of text. In other words, we look at pictures and videos regularly and we consume them more quickly than we do text.



A Simple Exemple
Ptr your idea is Pointer (That logical for computer engineering). But, your Customer is Random Guy from (US, HongKong, Germany, Italy...), who don't know this words is the white Arrow who move when he move the mouse.
But, if he see the white arrow on a button Random Guy understand immediately.


Long sentences
If you put 2 or 3 words on a button. For smaller screen is harder, text is very small. And, in all case read take more time and brain energy than visualise.
People, will change the words for an image. Or for 2 or 3 letter for create a symbol (logical for him) than he can visualise. Or change color of button. (For visualise an associate this color = this function).

(Normal functioning of the human brain. Visualisation is beter than Read)
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-03-13 13:32:18
[2020-03-13 14:18:02]
User201106 - Posts: 61
Please give the user the option to choose Icon or Text. Some of us prefer that visual and use 2k monitors and the appearance is excellent. Thx
[2020-03-13 15:18:45]
BenjaminR - Posts: 168
Please allow user to revert to previous icons. This might be more scalable for some users, but now I have to search & read to figure out where my tools are. An icon was MUCH faster. "This is unacceptable", to use your language. Please give users the option to keep it the way it was. No problem w/ resolution at 1980x1020. Thanks.
[2020-03-13 16:03:28]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
You can use the previous icons. Just follow the instructions here:
Control Bar: Control Bar Button Properties

The instructions are specifically at step 10.
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[2020-03-26 15:34:31]
HinckleyBob - Posts: 45
My control bar got blasted with the most recent update, and when I went to rebuild it, the button images were named without usability in mind. Hunkered down with the market volatility too high for my risk tolerance, I used the time to make a file with the rename commands necessary to give them a description of my choice. The rename command lines and associated images are in the accompanying spreadsheet for anyone's use if they choose. It should be easy to change the names to your choosing.

Fingers crossed, My control bar changes should survive the next update.

Bob
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[2020-03-27 04:44:37]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We apologize for the effort you went through. Although we implemented a very easy solution for this which does not require you selecting a particular image file for a particular button. Refer to the notes for 2065 here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/Whats_New.php#SCVer2065

We specifically implemented a solution to this, and posted them in the version notes.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-03-27 04:44:56
[2020-03-30 13:12:13]
HinckleyBob - Posts: 45
Carefully following the instructions provided at "...ControlBar.php#ControlBarButtonProperties," The statement in the release notes explain the rationale for the change to text, thank you for that. The instruction "It is supported to use the previous images. To do this, follow the Control Bar Button Properties instructions and in particular follow step 10." When I attempted to reset the Arrow default image. It was a disappointing result (no image). Then, I renamed another tool Arrow caption and chose the image that I had added named arrow, and I was able to get an arrow to display. When I tried to find the Arrow and Extending Rectangle in the sorted list, I was unable to find either. Is it there? Are all the tools in the tools menu available?

Could the list in the left pane of the "Customize Control Bar #" be arranged in some order? Ditto for the Menu selection "Tools." Maybe Alphabetic, Catagories, Illustrated, something? If there is a pattern now, it isn't apparent to me. Suggestion attached.

As your customer, however, I cannot agree with the logic for the change to text. I am aware of the impossibility of satisfying everyone, and using text is one alternative. Maybe the software could determine if the monitor is too high a resolution to display the images, or different image sets are needed. But the new default blowing away the carefully chosen image selections is honestly a little frustrating. Text is always available to those whose monitors cannot display the tiny images that I use daily on my monitor.

My message was an attempt to be helpful, and I will continue that spirit in the interests of avoiding disparaging remarks. I think Sierra Charts is a wonderful product, but there seems to be some resistance and sensitivity to usability. My fear is that a competitor my take advantage.

Thank you for the hard work and conscious explained decision.
Bob
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-03-30 14:56:10
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[2020-03-30 14:06:31]
BenjaminR - Posts: 168
I second HinckleyBob's comments here: "the new default blowing away the carefully chosen image selections is honestly a little frustrating. Text is always available to those whose monitors cannot display the tiny images that I use daily on my monitor."

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