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[User Discussion] - Using Control Bars as Trade Window

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[2020-02-10 13:41:23]
User98657 - Posts: 304
I've read your posts regarding customization of the Trade Window, and your choice to enhance the Control Bars instead.

I like using the Control Bars, but i would like one improvement.

Please make the Order Quantity Buttons independently customizable per chart, or provide more Order Quantity Buttons on the Control Bar (another 6 please).

I trade four markets. I cannot accomplish the customization I need with the limited amount of Order Quantity Buttons. I can do so if I use the Trade Window because the Trade Windows for each chart appear to be independent.

If there's another way to work around this please let me know.
[2020-02-10 18:39:54]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
The order quantity buttons are customizable per chart. You set them for each individual Trade Window which is associated with each individual chart. The 6 control bar buttons for the order quantity map to the 6 buttons associated with the Trade Window for the active chart.
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[2020-02-10 19:38:20]
User98657 - Posts: 304
Yes, I understand, and I mentioned that in my question. However, the Button Caption in the Properties on the Control Bar are not. I'm not referring to the Order Quantity Button feature within the Trade Window on each Chart. I'm referring to the Order Quantity button option for use on the Control Bars.

In your responses to creating a customizable Trade Window you indicated you're not likely to pursue customization of the Trade Window because you've created so many new Trade Window buttons for the Control Bars. And i agree with your approach however, the Control Bar Order Quantity Buttons do not appear to be customizable for each chart. The description of the Order Quantity buttons I use on Chart 1, will be the same on all the other charts, even if I try to use them on a different Control Bar.

For example:
My maximum trade quantity on Chart #1 is 12 so I set button #6 on that chart for a quantity of 12. I use the properties for the Control Bar button and give it a Button caption of "12". The Button caption for button #6 will now be "12" for all the Control Bars that show that button.

In my second Chart however, my maximum quantity is 8. I do not want to see a button labeled "12" on the tool bar for that chart.

Assume for this discussion I am using all six buttons.

I just need to be able to change the caption/description for each button on each Control Bar or chart separately, OR... i need more buttons for use on the Control Bar.
[2020-02-11 05:50:51]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Ok we understand. We will see about a solution.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-02-13 13:49:19]
User472757 - Posts: 5
Yes, I second that request....another 6 would be very helpful!
[2021-02-18 20:36:22]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We will be following up and looking this over again.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-03-09 17:46:29]
Rui S - Posts: 175
Sorry to ask, but this will be a very needed and very well come feature.

Any news about adding more customizable "Order Quantity Buttons" to the Control Bar and/or Trade Window? The more the better...

Thanks in advance.
[2021-04-18 18:12:43]
Rui S - Posts: 175
Hello.

I thought that this could help other users to find solutions for the "shortage" of trade window quantity buttons mentioned in the posts above.

After wrestling for a while with this issue, I found out (by trial and error) that we can change the Trade DOM order quantity just inputting the number on the keyboard and hit Enter (e.g. 15 + Enter). Very fast and easy.

It's strange though that I couldn't find this information written or mentioned anywhere in all of the vast SC information available.

So, we can configure a small macro for every single digit we need. As I wrote above, these macros are simply the digits + Enter.

From here you can configure any keyboard shortcut to input any figure you need, even just with a single key stroke.

As I don't like to mix too much the keyboard shortcuts (and SC has already a lot of them preconfigured), I bought a Stream Deck just for these extra dedicated keyboard shortcuts. This way I don't even need the macros, just need to configure and customize the Stream Deck.

Just using this, we can expand a lot the functionality of Sierra Chart in many fields, not just the quantity buttons.

I hope this info can help other users too.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-04-18 18:17:46
[2022-03-12 07:42:12]
Acro - Posts: 436
Hello Rui,

I thought I would just write a clarification on your post here as regards trading doms vs chart doms

If one is not actually using a trade dom (eg because the volatility in NQ is so high and you can't see enough price levels) but instead a chart DOM your proposed method will not work but it is still useful
- ie if you just enter a digit and enter that will only change the chart period and not the quantity.

What you can do instead though is also have a Trade DOM that has the same same chart linking with "Symbol" and "Trade Window" and "Trade/Quote Symbol" checked between the Trade DOM and the Chart DOM.

Then you can write a macro in a program like macro express to activate the Trade DOM, change the quantity by digit + enter and then minimize the trade dom and activate the chart DOM.
This will work. There may be a delay of a few milliseconds before reflected in the trade window of the Chart DOM but it will work.

However, it would be much simpler if Sierra could entable a fast entry mechanism by keyboard to change trade quantity - eg by entering digit + q + enter.

I am writing this post becuase it is so useful to be able to do that in conjuction with the Risk Reward tool to dynamically change quantity size to keep you within the total dollar risk limit you have set for each individual trade.
Importantly, the RR tool is dynamic in that it will update the stop and target currency value based on what your current quantity is set at in the trade window so it will update automatically if you change it by the macro I mentioned
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2022-03-12 07:46:05
[2022-03-12 12:57:34]
Rui S - Posts: 175
Hello Acro,

Thank you for your clarification.

I only use the Trade DOM to place my orders but you are absolutely correct, sometimes NQ volatility makes it extremely difficult to keep up.

Your suggestion sounds good. I'll give it a try and make some testing to see if I can use it to improve my SC setup.

Thank you.

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