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SC 2007 issue with latest Numbers Bars Calculated Values

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[2019-11-05 04:49:19]
User695518 - Posts: 50
Hello,

SC 2007 does not color the Numbers Bars Calculated Values on the newest bar. I have attached a screenshot. Reverting to SC 2005 resolves this issue.

Thanks.
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[2019-11-05 10:39:45]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Yes this is true because it cannot be done accurately until the bar completes. We will make sure the documentation explains this.
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[2019-11-05 13:26:58]
User695518 - Posts: 50
Thanks for the update and confirmation. I much prefer the old behavior, even if inaccurate. Is it possible to make the behavior an optional setting for the Numbers Bars Calculated Values? I don't want to have to be stuck at SC 2005.... This quick visual colored cell reference that I can see in my peripheral vision is very important to my trading.

Thanks
[2019-11-05 14:11:30]
User695518 - Posts: 50
Can you describe the inaccuracies? I fully understand that the bar is not yet complete, but the solid color fill in the statistics cells always seemed to be accurate to me. I have attached the screenshot again, as I am sure others will be asking about this.

Thanks
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[2019-11-05 17:00:07]
User864893 - Posts: 26
Can we please get the coloring of the last bar back. Its clear the numbers are not final until the bar is complete but without coloring it makes it much more tough to read.
[2019-11-05 17:33:38]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31334
We have changed the functionality back to allow the last bar to color as it develops. This will be in the next Pre-Release (v 2008).

But, in order to allow this to occur, the last bar does not affect the overall background colors until the last bar closes. Therefore, if the last bar goes beyond the highest and/or lowest values that have previously been established, it will color the Range 3 color, but the other bars will not adjust. Once the last bar closes, if it is still a new High or new Low, then the rest of the bars will adjust their colors at that time.

This was the reason why this change was made in the first place, as we found that we were saving off the highest or lowest value during development of the bar, which could lead to erroneous results if, when the bar closed, it was not establishing a new high or low.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-11-05 17:36:24
[2019-11-05 17:41:19]
User695518 - Posts: 50
Thanks for listening and taking the time to update us and provide description of the issue. Personally, I don't pay too much attention to the Range 3 color, but the overall red vs. green is a very obvious visual reference as the bar is building.
[2019-11-05 18:02:59]
Ackin - Posts: 1865

John - SC Support
This was the reason why this change was made in the first place, as we found that we were saving off the highest or lowest value during development of the bar, which could lead to erroneous results if, when the bar closed, it was not establishing a new high or low.

Would it be possible to include such changes (and similar changes in the future) at least briefly in the update description? This study is very popular and every update we are as detectives and we are looking for what has changed.

I know you have a lot of other activities, but I think you are adding more work for yourself by answering many questions on the forum .... unnecessarily.
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[2019-11-05 18:18:34]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31334
Yes, this will be in the Release Notes, but sometimes the releases come out before the Release Notes get posted.
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[2019-11-05 19:19:21]
Ackin - Posts: 1865
Yes, this will be in the Release Notes, but sometimes the releases come out before the Release Notes get posted.
John :) Last update info was "2003 Release Date: 2019-10-25" Current ver is 2007 (November 2, 2019)

I don't criticize you. It's hard to having all information updated. You have a forum full of questions about changes in the update. Sierrachart is already a very large sw and we as users could be might know at least a hint of where you are currently making changes (in what area we should expect / worry ;) )What happens after an update is sometimes annoying. ... and more: for newbies it may look like SierraChart is full of bugs when there are so many questions about updates. Everything written in a good I appreciate your work, I say it only from the other side ... as a customer.
[2019-11-08 20:26:17]
nosast - Posts: 290
Just curious... Will the attached still work when upgrading? If not - please consider an option to keep the colouring as it is in 2006. The colour of the background is very essential for me and gives a quick visual glance. I'm sure everyone knows that the bar is not finished yet and this is some sort of the visualisation of the current moment. For me I rely very heavy on the colouring in percentages to see extreme delta.
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[2019-11-08 20:54:40]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31334
With respect to post #11:
The only difference between how it worked previously and the latest update is that if the current developing bar goes above the highest value or below the lowest value that has been established by a bar previously, then all of the colors will not update to that new high or low but will stay the same color. The developing bar will then be colored the Range 3 Up/Down color.

This is all explained in fifth paragraph the documentation here:
Numbers Bars: Calculated Values Background Coloring Logic
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[2019-11-13 06:01:26]
Meklon - Posts: 217
if the current developing bar goes above the highest value or below the lowest value that has been established by a bar previously, then all of the colors will not update to that new high or low but will stay the same color. The developing bar will then be colored the Range 3 Up/Down color.

- John, would it be possible to illustrate and explain this behavior by using a slide example? I think this latest change has created quite a confusion for many users as the coloring logic was not a simple one to begin with and now it is even more complicated with this new feature. If you could provide a graphical illustration of how it works it would be really helpful.

Thanks in advance.
[2019-11-15 17:59:39]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31334
We have put together an example of the Background Coloring for the Numbers Bars Calculated Values showing how the developing bar does not change the background coloring of the rest of the row.

You will find this here:
Numbers Bars: Numbers Bars Calculated Values Background Coloring Example 2
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[2019-11-16 07:11:44]
Meklon - Posts: 217
Great, tnak you!

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