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Date/Time: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:06:02 +0000



Color Setting Cumulated Last Trade Size

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[2017-12-22 09:34:52]
Andreas - Posts: 363
Hello SC,

i have a q abt the coloring of said column... see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxjmgI8xr7k

after a couple ses it changes bg-color to cyan and fg color to white.. but i cant find the setting for that?

any hint is appreciated!

thanks,
Andreas
[2017-12-22 16:19:17]
John - SC Support - Posts: 433
The settings you are looking for are found in the Graphics Settings. To change these for all charts, go to Global Settings >> Graphics Settings - Global, scroll down the list in the Colors and Widths tab to the following four items:
- Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Text Bid Trade
- Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Text Ask Trade
- Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Background Bid Trade
- Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Background Ask Trade

The documentation for these items can be found starting here:
http://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/ChartTradingCustomizingGraphics.php#TradeDOMCumulativeLastSizeTextBidTrade
[2017-12-22 16:59:30]
Andreas - Posts: 363
John,

thank you for your reply.. i thought so too but it isnt.. however, i figured it out.. after a couple seconds (looks like its a timer of 5 secs) it doesnt use those settings anymore but switches to use the "Trade DOM Last Price / Quantity Background" and Trade DOM Values Scale Text" but NOT "Trade DOM Last Price / Quantity Text"

even though i love that we change colors, i've several issues with this:

1. i think its meant to imitate x-trader's / jigsaw's behavior (which is good!) but does so wrongly... the main purpose of this is to see if there's follow through. so when it first hits the offer, and i have set it to use blue, it should be blue for the first trade and then (e.g.) white for any additional trade which occures as long as it doesnt hit the bid where prices would be initially (e.g.) red and then (e.g.) white.
This enables you quickly if there was just one big or several smaller order(s) hitting one particular level.

2. there's not enough padding to really see the numbers... right now theose are hard to read (see attachment)

3. we really should have a seperate color setting for that (text and background)

thank you,
Andreas
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[2017-12-22 19:35:32]
John - SC Support - Posts: 433
What is the column that you are using?
[2017-12-22 19:38:54]
Andreas - Posts: 363
Cumulative Last Size
[2017-12-22 20:03:41]
John - SC Support - Posts: 433
This is working properly.

It is using the items I first mentioned as long as you are connected to the Data Feed. If you are disconnected from the Data Feed, then it will use the Trade DOM Last Price/Quantity Text and the Trade DOM Last Price/Quantity Background. This is why you are seeing the change from when you first open the Trade DOM, as it needs to get the next trade to determine if it is a Bid or Ask trade to know which colors to use.

In regards to
there's not enough padding to really see the numbers
refer to the section DOM Quantities/Sizes under this section:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/GraphicsSettings.html#FontsAndText
[2017-12-22 20:09:04]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 64835
1. We need more clear details to be able to implement this.

3. This is not clear what you mean.
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[2017-12-22 20:13:48]
Andreas - Posts: 363
John, it works as i have described in #3, 1st bullet point.. see a longer video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrkgWFY9Byg

starts at ~ 15sec when 20 hit the offer - after ~4 seconds the 20 becomes white - as set in the "Trade DOM Last Price / Quantity Background" and "Trade DOM Values Scale Text"
[2017-12-22 20:16:54]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 64835
2. Do you want to see a wider background behind the number?

Also refer to post #7 above.
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[2017-12-22 20:40:54]
Andreas - Posts: 363
SC Engineering,

#3

right now there is a bug involved and a change request

the bug:

after that 4s timer it changes colors using the setting "Trade DOM Last Price / Quantity Background" / "Trade DOM Values Scale Text" but it should use "Trade DOM Last Price / Quantity Text" to be at least consistent.

however, i'd rather like to see a new setting for "(Cumulative) Last Size Background" / "(Cumulative) Last Size Text" because something that works great for last price (e.g. cyan as background and white as text) doesnt work great for the last size.



#1

lets say we're 50 bid and 75 offer.

right now it seems to be working like this:

an order hits the bid with 10 contracts. -> coloring is "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Text Bid Trade" / "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Background Bid Trade"
another order hits the bid with 5 contracts within the 4s time period -> coloring is "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Text Bid Trade" / "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Background Bid Trade"
4s are over -> color changes to "Trade DOM Last Price / Quantity Background" / "Trade DOM Values Scale Text"


what it shoud do, though is:

an order hits the bid with 10 contracts. -> coloring is "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Text Bid Trade" / "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Background Bid Trade"
another order hits the bid with 5 contracts (within / ouside the 4s time period - that timer can be deleted) -> coloring should be (the new setting from #3) "(Cumulative) Last Size Background" / "(Cumulative) Last Size Text"


or:

an order hits the bid with 10 contracts. -> coloring is "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Text Bid Trade" / "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Background Bid Trade"
an order hits the offer with 2 contracts. -> coloring is "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Text Ask Trade" / "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Background Ask Trade"
an order hits the bid with 1 contract. -> coloring is "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Text Bid Trade" / "Trade DOM Cumulative Last Size Background Bid Trade"
another order hits the bid with 2 contracts (within / ouside the 4s time period - that timer can be deleted) -> coloring should be (the new setting from #3) "(Cumulative) Last Size Background" / "(Cumulative) Last Size Text"



#2

yes, make the "background box" a bit wider.. maybe as wide as the cell

see mockup attached
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[2018-01-02 16:29:11]
Andreas - Posts: 363
SC, does this mean you look into this and consider implementing my proposal?

and where are my 2 posts with the videos?

thanks,
Andreas
[2018-01-02 18:17:36]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 64835
In regards to the videos, we do not accept videos:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/PostingInformation.php#DoNotPostVideos

We looked at one of them, and we were reassured as to why that policy exists. We will not look at the videos. They are not necessary.

We will look over the other information when we can.

right now there is a bug involved and a change request

the bug:

after that 4s timer it changes colors using the setting "Trade DOM Last Price / Quantity Background" / "Trade DOM Values Scale Text" but it should use "Trade DOM Last Price / Quantity Text" to be at least consistent.
There is no bug. The documentation is quite clear:

http://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/ChartTradingCustomizingGraphics.php#TradeDOMCumulativeLastSizeTextBidTrade

We will look this over when we can and see what is best for us to improve with this. Allow six months.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-08-26 01:50:43

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