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Attached orders NOT sent when target is not used?
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| [2016-02-29 08:52:23] |
| phaedonk - Posts: 352 |
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I noticed that attached orders are not sent to TWS when only a stop is used, without any target. They are sent without problems when a target IS used. What is that about?
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| [2016-02-29 09:14:28] |
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Initially we were puzzled by what you said, but we think we understand what you mean . Until the parent order fills, the Stop will not be sent because obviously there has to be a Position before the stop becomes active in the market. TWS has no capability to hold it as a conditional order, at least not to our knowledge. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2016-02-29 09:16:47] |
| phaedonk - Posts: 352 |
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Okay, now I am puzzled. They are child orders. How does TWS hold it on its server when there is also a target child attached?
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| [2016-02-29 09:26:49] |
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They are just held as child orders until the parent order fills. This is called a server side bracket order. Refer to: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_AttachedOrders.html Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2016-02-29 09:34:35] |
| phaedonk - Posts: 352 |
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Still confused. Of course I have enabled the Server side OCO orders. This though ("When using server-side Bracket orders, both the Parent and Attached Orders are sent at the same time to the Trading service") does not occur WHEN no target is used in the attached orders configuration. Only the parent orders are sent. However, when a target is also used, THEN all the attached orders get sent along with the parents. |
| [2016-02-29 15:38:02] |
| phaedonk - Posts: 352 |
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In addition to the above, which is still an open issue, please answer me this: can I use a Trail attached order that is managed by TWS (i.e. it is a TRAIL order as defined by TWS)? I experimented today and saw that it is managed by Sierra. Which means it stopped updating as I switched on SIM.
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| [2016-02-29 18:17:28] |
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does not occur WHEN no target is used in the attached orders configuration. Only the parent orders are sent.
Yes, this is the case and will not change.However, when a target is also used, THEN all the attached orders get sent along with the parents. can I use a Trail attached order that is managed by TWS (
No this is not supported and cannot be supported. For more information about this, refer to:https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_OrderTypes.html#ManagementOfTrailingStopOrders Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2016-02-29 21:02:29] |
| phaedonk - Posts: 352 |
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1) is there a specific reason for this? Too difficult implementation, too much time needed? I can work around it, I guess, by using a target very very far away. Still I think it needs to be implemented at some point. Having to rely on our own internet connection or not being able to switch to Sim/close the program is not a dependable solution. 2) I understand some of the reasoning for not supporting this, but not all of it makes sense. You say: "Sierra Chart does not support the use of server modified trailing stop orders because the functionality available from the Trading service cannot support all of the needed trailing stop and move to breakeven functionality that Sierra Chart has." But I'm not asking for anything complex at all, no break even solution, no special trailing solution. I just want a simple TRAIL stop in TWS, that follows the market. Nothing fancy whatsoever. I am sure that you could implement this extremely quickly if you wanted, so I do not have to rely on ib`s excel solution to submit simple trailing orders. |
| [2016-03-01 02:10:52] |
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1. It is not supported to our knowledge by Interactive Brokers. 2. There is no chance of us ever getting involved with this. We are more than glad to lose business over this. It is not worth it for us. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2016-03-17 11:56:11] |
| phaedonk - Posts: 352 |
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2) Can I use server modified trailing stop orders with using ACSIL? Or is there the same limitation? Reason I keep asking is because I use a specific system which uses trailing stops. Sierra perfectly watches and adapts the price. However, when I'm on the move with my laptop with me and switched off (i'm working at two locations) I cannot keep managing the stops, as SC is not online. So, I'm not following the system and opening myself to larger losses. Please clarify, thanks. |
| [2016-03-17 17:03:43] |
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2. Server modified trailing stop orders are just not supported. Consider using a Windows server and running TWS and Sierra Chart on the server and then connect to it remotely using Remote Desktop. That is a good solution especially now with the DTC Server in Sierra Chart. This is a reasonable solid solution. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-03-17 17:12:03
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| [2016-03-17 17:07:53] |
| phaedonk - Posts: 352 |
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Yes I'm considering doing just that, with Amazon perhaps. Does the DTC server have anything to do with IB implementation? I thought it was something to be used in the future by brokers.
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| [2016-03-17 17:14:09] |
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Be sure to get a good server. Preferably a dedicated server. Here is a good deal for a dedicated server we came across: https://www.amanah.com/ The DTC Server allows you to connect to Sierra Chart from another copy of Sierra Chart and access the market data and perform trading. Make sure you are using the latest prerelease when using it. Here are instructions: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/doc_DTCServer.php#UsingDTCServerForDataAndTradingInAnotherSCInstance Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2016-03-17 17:15:32
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| [2016-03-17 17:15:41] |
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We corrected some dictation errors in the prior post.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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