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Spreadsheets

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[2014-12-26 19:38:27]
rick e - Posts: 51
Gentlemen : This program is one of the best programs technically and visually that I have seen (and I have seen a few over the years), and although it has a rather long learning curve it is well worth the effort but I notice that a "change" was made to spreadsheets. Seems you really have it in for the old sheets which seemed to work well for many people for quite a long time. Going to eliminate them in
future releases? and will no longer support them? Wow! I've got a whole system developed around these things now which required a serious amount of time and effort on my part. Now I'm required to learn
a new type of spreadsheet and re-program them. I'm not a programmer, just a trader.
Maybe leaving the old spreadsheets in future editions would be a thought at least for a reasonable adjustment period for us "non-programmers".
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2014-12-26 20:16:39
[2014-12-26 20:18:29]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Continue to use the version of Sierra Chart with "Old Spreadsheets" and they will be available for many years. But after March 2015, newer versions will no longer support them.

Old spreadsheets are being discontinued for the following reason:
-We do not have access to the source code and have no ability to fix any problems with them or make any improvements either.
-New Spreadsheets are faster.
-New Spreadsheets have critical important improvements to make using the Spreadsheet study easier.
-We have 100% control over the code in New Spreadsheets.
-New Spreadsheets do not use Microsoft CLR. This in itself has so many benefits. Without CLR Sierra Chart can work on multiple operating systems, Sierra Chart has less startup problems, Sierra Chart is faster. And many many more things.

Yes, we do not like Old Spreadsheets.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2014-12-26 20:22:46
[2014-12-27 22:41:21]
Sawtooth - Posts: 4095
@rick e
Many studies and systems will directly convert from Old to New Spreadsheets, some will require formula and configuration tweaks, and a few will never be able to convert because of a loss of functionality.

The Old Spreadsheets work well, and the reasons given for the New Spreadsheets do not benefit this user nor many others. Now we must endure the process of converting where we can, and be orphaned where we cannot or do not.

Yes, I do like the Old Spreadsheets.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2014-12-27 22:58:29
[2014-12-27 23:18:12]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
One area of functionality we plan to support is the ability to use formulas to generate a range reference using the ':' operator. Like this: [formula which returns a cell reference]:[formula which returns a cell reference]

There are many details to make this work. We determined it is something that we need to do.

The Old Spreadsheets work well, and the reasons given for the New Spreadsheets do not benefit this user nor many others
The only other choice is to remove spreadsheet functionality altogether. And we will not do that. You are not aware of the long-term outcome and risks with Old Spreadsheets. Long-term it is incompatible with Sierra Chart, and cannot be maintained, and are dying a slow death for these two reasons. Longer-term we will be proven correct where New Spreadsheets will benefit most users.

This is not an area where we will give in on, and we are willing to lose customers over this.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2014-12-27 23:21:08
[2014-12-28 00:43:52]
Sawtooth - Posts: 4095
One area of functionality we plan to support is the ability to use formulas to generate a range reference using the ':' operator. Like this: [formula which returns a cell reference]:[formula which returns a cell reference]
Thank you for this. It is one area of functionality that I use frequently.

I understand and appreciate your position. I'm no fan of Microsoft except for the choices the universality of their products provide. And, of course, the Old Spreadsheets will not be compatible when all things Microsoft have been extricated.

And thank you for retaining spreadsheet functionality in future non-CLR releases. You'll not lose me as a customer over the removal of the Old Spreadsheets, but I will miss them. I'll just have to make-do with the New Spreadsheets.
[2014-12-28 03:06:19]
rick e - Posts: 51
Well I have no more to say on this, so I will bid you all a fond farewell and catch you on the flip side. More informed people than I will have to resolve this. Rick
[2014-12-28 03:09:39]
rick e - Posts: 51
Sorry tomgilb, but thanks for the response and the support. Rick
[2014-12-28 08:26:06]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
If we need to push the March date back we will. We can push it back to June. But at some point, it is going to get difficult to do.

Even though Old Spreadsheets will be supported by making the last version available that supports Old Spreadsheets, for many years, at least 4, we recognize that still could be a risk for users with Old Spreadsheets because maybe there is some critical need at some future point where they will have to update to a newer Sierra Chart version. Hopefully, not. But perhaps. So we will see how to manage this.

Anyway, at the moment, users of Old Spreadsheet who have a high dependency on them, should not really be too concerned at this point.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2014-12-28 19:28:26

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