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Date/Time: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 10:04:12 +0000
Color Bar on Alert using Study/Price Overlay seemingly not alerting all conditions
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| [2025-09-08 06:09:26] |
| User153286 - Posts: 64 |
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I am using a 100 tic chart as the source and a 2000 tic as the destination. In the 100 tic chart I have added the volume study. I want to alert on the 2000 tic chart when the 100 tic chart volume exceeds 300. I added the Study/Price overlay study to the 2000 tic chart, configured it to use the 100 tick chart and the volume study on the 100 tic chart. In the 2000 tic chart I then added the Color Bar Based On Alert Condition study, configured it to use the Study/Price Overlay study as input. In the Alert formula I pointed the overlay study which was/is ID:7 and I used the SG1 value. Here is the alert formula I am using =ID7.SG1>300. It does alert some conditions correctly but it misses many others. I have far more situation where the 100 tic volume exceeds 300 than is alerted to on the 2000 tic chart configured as described above. It does not appear to me simply a mis-aligned bar/time formation situation. There are instances when a 100 tick bar volume exceed 300, but no 2000 bar is alerted that is before, during or after the respective time of the 100 tick bar with its volume exceeding 300. I thought I would get an alert on a 2000 bar if a 100 bar's volume, during the formation of the 2000 tick bar, exceeded my configured 300 volume alert value. Am I missing something?
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| [2025-09-08 17:49:19] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 41827 |
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There are too many possible issues with the way you are doing this, that you should do this a different way. Add a study to the 100 Tick chart that gives you a non-zero value when the condition is true on the 100 tick chart, and then overlay that study to the 2000 tick chart. The "Spreadsheet Formula" is an easy solution for this, as it uses the Alert syntax, so you could have a formula that is the following: =V > 300 Then do what you want to with that information on the 2000 tick chart. Refer to the following: Spreadsheet Formula For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2025-09-10 01:21:35] |
| User153286 - Posts: 64 |
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Same results, not all > 300 volume bars indicated on the 100 tick chart get marked on the 2000 tick chart via the Study Price Overlay study. I used color bar alert study on the 100 tick chart using formula =v>300 and set the Custom Output Value When True to 1 in that study as well. I gave the short name of VGT300. In my configuration, the 100 tick chart is Chart #4. I overlayed Chart #5 VGT300 on the 2000 tick chart. I had indications at 14:20:23 and 14:21:48 on the 100 tick chart illustrated by Orange Diamonds. None of these 4 bars on the 2000 at times 14:12:21, 14:15:00, 14:19:41, and 14:26:40 have any hits. I have attached supporting images. Very curious about this.
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| [2025-09-10 01:33:55] |
| User153286 - Posts: 64 |
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Also, I change Full Synchronization of Sources Chart to Destination from No to Yes yikes it put orange indications on each bar in both charts. The only way to remove them is seemingly to redo those studies as changing back to No does nothing. I even tried reloading the charts Very strange. |
| [2025-09-10 14:23:15] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 41827 |
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Please get us that chart so we can take a look at how you have it setup. Follow these instructions: Support Board Posting Information: Providing Chartbook with Only a Single Chart The option for "Full Synchronization of Source Chart to Destination" will change the destination chart to match the Bar Period of the source chart. So that is not what you want to do. Refer to the following for this: Study/Price Overlay Study: Full Synchronization of Source Chart to Destination For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2025-09-10 15:15:58] |
| User153286 - Posts: 64 |
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I will package it up for you. Something I noticed when watching it in real time, at the "moment" an orange diamond prints on the 100 tick chart, a corresponding orange diamond prints on the 2000, but the majority of the time the orange diamond, on the very next bar update on the 2000 tick chart, goes away. I suspect the orange diamond stays on the 2000 tick chart if the occurrence aligns with the close of the 2000 tick chart as they are printed at the price close of the 2000 tick bars that do display them.
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| [2025-09-10 16:22:38] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 41827 |
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What you state in your last post is correct and explains what you are seeing. The 2000 tick chart is only going to display the state of the item in the 100 tick chart for the period in which that item is displayed relative to the bar in the 2000 tick chart. For instance, assuming a perfect alignment between the two charts at some point, such that a new bar starts in both at the same time, you can get a notice for the first bar in the 100 tick chart and it will show on the 2000 tick chart. But when a new bar starts in the 100 tick chart, that condition is reset, and therefore the 2000 tick chart will show the current state of that condition, which is now False. There is not a way to persist the state of an alert for each bar when overlaying it from a lower timeframe to a higher one, since the higher timeframe chart is made up of multiple bars from the lower time frame. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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