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[Locked] - Historical data for ES

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[2024-12-08 01:46:54]
User315753 - Posts: 25
Hello Sierrachart team,

I am trying to get access to historical data for the ESZ4.CME contract. I have made it continuous and set it to volume based rollover. I am trying to get access to its data and as I have read online it goes back to 2011. However I am only able to make it go back around 2021. I have checked to see if its a data limiting issue as I know that by default there is a limitation per month but I still have plenty of data left. I cannot figure out why I am not able to go back more in time. Please advise.

Thank you
[2024-12-08 01:58:12]
User315753 - Posts: 25
*correction* it goes back to 2018 not 2021
[2024-12-08 05:29:01]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 19461
You definitely cannot use a Rithmic symbol with long-term Continuous Futures Contract charts. You need to use the Sierra Chart Historical Data Service:
Sierra Chart Historical Data Service

In other words, you cannot use the Rithmic service with Continuous Futures Contract charts.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-12-09 05:36:25
[2024-12-08 06:09:55]
User315753 - Posts: 25
I got it. I had to switch to my account that was my personal broker via teton routing to get older data. I know Sierra chart is able to display Denali data feed and share it if there are other accounts via: File/Data and trade settings > Allow support for Sierra Chart Data feeds. which I did but when i switch to my Rithmic account I do not see the symbol for ES that uses the correct Sierra chart data feed. Is it possible to use Rithmic with the Sierra chart data feed and its symbol?
[2024-12-08 06:40:57]
User315753 - Posts: 25
Update : when i use a sub instance it uses the correct data feed along with rithmic order execution but this does not work when not using a new instance. please let me know how can i fix this.

Thank you
[2024-12-08 18:08:20]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 19461
Is it possible to use Rithmic with the Sierra chart data feed and its symbol?
No.

Basically with Rithmic you cannot use continuous contracts. Simply do not use them at all. You need to have a separate installation of Sierra Chart set to use the Sierra Chart Historical Data Service:
Sierra Chart Historical Data Service

You must have your long-term charts in a separate installation of Sierra Chart set to that service only.

If you want to use Rithmic simply set up an installation of Sierra Chart:
Using Multiple Data and Trading Services at the Same Time

Set to use Rithmic:
Rithmic Trading Platform Service: Setup Instructions
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-12-08 18:08:50
[2024-12-08 20:10:02]
User315753 - Posts: 25
I see. This does make sense but what I am wondering is that I do see the [M] symbol on my rithmic chart but I am not getting the denali data. I am guessing that this is only true for historical charts? and that when using intraday data, charts are in sync with Denali? I was reading on a different thread that when using Rithmic the denali feed only goes back 5 years because of them using single digits for the years? is this the same issue? thank you for your response.
[2024-12-08 20:38:40]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 19461
but I am not getting the denali data.
How do you know this?

To ensure all of the data is correct in the chart and coming from the Denali Data Feed:

Re-download all the data in the chart by going to the chart and selecting "Edit >> Delete All Data and Download" from the main Sierra Chart menu. You just need to do this once per symbol and not for each chart. This command is on the main Sierra Chart menu at the top. Only use it from that location.

Yes the issue with continuous contracts and Rithmic is that the symbols use single-digit years.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2024-12-09 01:12:21]
User315753 - Posts: 25
How do you know this?

I assumed this because I cannot find the denali symbols using Rithmic and that the historical chart does not load more than 5 years. I think this would be only true for the historical chart? and that the intraday is connected to Denali even though the symbol is Rithmic symbol?


If this is true then I understand what is going on and I should proceed to use the historical chart service on a separate installation.

Thanks
[2024-12-09 04:05:06]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 19461
No this is not correct. If you see the [M] , the data is coming from the Denali Data Feed and being mapped to the Rithmic symbol.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2024-12-09 05:09:33]
User315753 - Posts: 25
I see. I do see the [M] for the historical chart as well but it only goes back 5 years but when I log in to my non rithmic account it goes back until around 2008. What could this be because of?
[2024-12-09 05:33:13]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 19461
Once again do not use continuous contracts with Rithmic. You cannot do that . We should just completely disable that functionality for Rithmic but we do not want a massive amount of complaints. But we have contemplated many times, completely disabling continuous futures contract functionality.

Please listen to what we are saying. Do not use continuous futures contract charts with Rithmic. Do not. This is why we are being repetitive. You are ignoring what we are saying and you keep asking us questions.

If we get this asked us again, we are going to completely disable for everyone continuous contract functionality for Rithmic. We do not need the questions.

We are not going to be answering further.

This thread is now locked!

See our post #3 above.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2024-12-09 05:39:37

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