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[2023-10-11 10:11:31] #1 [Go To First Post]
Tin43 - Posts: 75
Ok, let's see if I can explain myself. Apologies for my English. I discovered that software, bookmap. I'm into sim trading. No real trading at this moment. What I want is to know which data feed I will have to pay for to have the exact same chart in SC and in Bookmap. Bookmap in his free version offers for free Dxfeed, but sometimes is delayed like 90 hours or so. Which data feed should i have to pay to see the exact same chart in both of them. And If I have to pay for a subscription in Bookmap it's not a problem. They accept Rithmic... but I read this Rithmic Trading Platform Service: Rithmic Market Data and Support Policy I mean, I don't care to pay so I can sim trade, but I want both platforms showing the exact same information. I'm interested in Futures. Thanks.

[2023-10-11 14:47:01] #2 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31301
The only way to get the "Exact Same Information" to both systems would be to use the Rithmic data. But even then, the way the data is sent to Sierra Chart from Rithmic is different from how it gets to Bookmap. The main difference is in how much historical data is available, but we would expect the real-time data to be the same. You may also have issues with multiple connections to Rithmic if you have both Sierra Chart and Bookmap connecting. Given all of this, our recommendation would be to do the best you can, which would mean using our Denali Exchange Data Feed for Sierra Chart and using what you can for Bookmap and just accepting the differences as they are. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2023-10-11 16:27:33] #3 [Go To First Post]
Tin43 - Posts: 75
Ok , first of all thanks for answering, as always. I will go slowly, English is not my mother tongue. And If you need to answer like i'm dumb. No problem. The only way to get the "Exact Same Information" to both systems would be to use the Rithmic data. But even then, the way the data is sent to Sierra Chart from Rithmic is different from how it gets to Bookmap. The main difference is in how much historical data is available, but we would expect the real-time data to be the same. This means that real data expect to be the same, but historical data, the one I can load years in time in sierra Chart, wouldn't be possible in Bookmap, isn't it? But at the end, talking about real time usage, as today for example, if I'm seeing and order of 50 contracts at 4100.25 at 9:30a.m in Bookmap, I will see the same price/time in a candlestick/footprint chart etc in Sierra? You may also have issues with multiple connections to Rithmic if you have both Sierra Chart and Bookmap connecting. So this is directly a known issue? Of what kind? Not able to connect them at the same time? Given all of this, our recommendation would be to do the best you can, which would mean using our Denali Exchange Data Feed for Sierra Chart and using what you can for Bookmap and just accepting the differences as they are. I don't have any problem to adopt any solution as long as I can achieve what I want. What would be that difference in that scenario, using Denali Exchange Data feed on Sierra Chart and Rithmic on Bookmap?

[2023-10-11 17:35:50] #4 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31301
The only way to get the "Exact Same Information" to both systems would be to use the Rithmic data. But even then, the way the data is sent to Sierra Chart from Rithmic is different from how it gets to Bookmap. The main difference is in how much historical data is available, but we would expect the real-time data to be the same. This means that real data expect to be the same, but historical data, the one I can load years in time in sierra Chart, wouldn't be possible in Bookmap, isn't it? But at the end, talking about real time usage, as today for example, if I'm seeing and order of 50 contracts at 4100.25 at 9:30a.m in Bookmap, I will see the same price/time in a candlestick/footprint chart etc in Sierra? We expect that any data accumulated in real-time (while connected to Rithmic) to be the same, the issue with historical data is with Sierra Chart. You can only get a few days of historical data with Rithmic in Sierra Chart - you would not be able to view years worth of data in Sierra Chart with the Rithmic data. You may also have issues with multiple connections to Rithmic if you have both Sierra Chart and Bookmap connecting. So this is directly a known issue? Of what kind? Not able to connect them at the same time? It is something you would need to check on. Given how Rithmic connects to Sierra Chart and how it connects to Bookmap, we are not sure if there would be an issue or not. We have heard of some issues, but we are not certain exactly how they occur. It is something you need to look into in order to find out if connecting from both systems would work. Given all of this, our recommendation would be to do the best you can, which would mean using our Denali Exchange Data Feed for Sierra Chart and using what you can for Bookmap and just accepting the differences as they are. I don't have any problem to adopt any solution as long as I can achieve what I want. What would be that difference in that scenario, using Denali Exchange Data feed on Sierra Chart and Rithmic on Bookmap? The only differences would be anything that would come up within the data itself. Where we certainly do not expect to see any major differences, there can be differences in the data. It is why we have developed our own connections to major exchanges and have our own data. We were having too many issues with third-party data that was being put on us. We really recommend using our Denali Data for Sierra Chart and Rithmic (or whatever you choose) for Bookmap. This is the best way to ensure that your Sierra Chart experience is the best it can be. What are the exchanges for which you are wanting data? For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2023-10-11 17:44:15] #5 [Go To First Post]
Tin43 - Posts: 75
What are the exchanges for which you are wanting data? I'm interested in paper trading. I don't have any exchange yet. I always used Trading Evaluator Delayed on Sierra Chart. And sorry, maybe i'm stupid, but why do i need any exchange? I mean, if I don't want to trade real. Isn't possible to do the same as i'm doing in Sierra Chart but with bookmap? I'm only trying to find a data feed provider because I want to see the same information in both softwares. Maybe i'm too lost now.

[2023-10-11 17:58:51] #6 [Go To First Post]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31301
Sorry, we figured you were wanting real-time data. In terms of the delayed data, we do not know of any vendor that offers this. It is something that we specifically developed for our customer base in order to allow them access to data that acts like real data, but for which they would need to pay the (typically) expensive exchange fees while they were just testing out the software or developing their techniques. Therefore, we simply are not able to help with regards to how to get delayed data like we have, but for Bookmap. We just do not know of any. We have set this thread as a User Discussion, as there may be other customers that know of a data source for you. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

[2023-10-11 18:03:15] #7 [Go To First Post]
Tin43 - Posts: 75
No, I don't have any problem paying for real time data.. But I want to do paper trading. the fact finding a provider data feed was for be the same for sierra and bookmap. I don't care to pay data feed... it's not possible to pay for data feed only to paper trade? I have to open an account with found with an exchange to do it? It's what I deduct from your question about what exchange i have or looking data for...

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