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Scaling Out- Bracket orders

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[2021-09-06 13:03:07]
Ben A - Posts: 123
Hi,

When I scale out on say 3 contracts, what seems to happen is I can scale out of first two fine, however on the third and final contract, the stop loss order bracket will drop off of the order.

Is there any way that I can remedy this?

Many thanks,
[2021-09-06 14:51:42]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31704
It sounds like you have a quantity of 3 in your Stop Loss and you are scaling out in steps of 1. Therefore, at the third time, you are scaling out the last quantity of the Stop Loss.

If this is not the situation, then we need more information on what is happening so we can understand the situation.
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[2021-09-06 15:52:04]
Ben A - Posts: 123
Thanks John,

So what happens is I apply 3 contracts with brackets- three stop losses in place.

First scale of 1 contract leaves me with two contracts left, however now only 1 remaining stop loss.

Therefore my next scale then leaves me without a stop loss on the final contract.

This is repeatable and the same no matter which instrument.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-09-06 15:54:06
[2021-09-06 17:05:15]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31704
The simplest possibility is that the attached Stop Loss has a quantity of 2 when you are doing the first scale out, even though the main order is only a quantity of 1.

The information on what is happening will be in your Trade Activity Log. Look to find the order modification and why it is changing it by 2 instead of 1. Refer to the following:
Trade Activity Log: Viewing Historical Trade Activity
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[2021-09-06 17:53:57]
Ben A - Posts: 123
Hi John,

I have looked at the log it does appear that there are 2 stops being cancelled on first scale out if I am reading correctly:

Log is as follows:
OrderTypeQuantityBuySell PoistionQuantity  
Market 1 Buy 1
Market  1  Buy  2
Market  1  Buy  3
Market  1  Sell  2
Market  1  Sell  1
Market  1  Sell  

Order log from first scale out:

ActivityType  DateTime  Symbol  OrderActionSource  InternalOrderID  ServiceOrderID  OrderType  Quantity  BuySell  Price  Price2  OrderStatus
Orders  59:24.7  [Sim]F.US.MESU21  F.US.EPU21/F.US.MESU21[M] 150 Trades #19 | User order entry | Last: 4544.5 | Scaling out | AO=0  54431    Market  1  Sell      Order Sent
Orders  59:24.7  [Sim]F.US.MESU21  Simulated order accepted  54431  54431  Market  1  Sell      Open
Orders  59:24.7  [Sim]F.US.MESU21  Trade simulation fill. Bid: 4544.50 Ask: 4544.50 Last: 4544.50  54431  54431  Market  1  Sell      Filled
Orders  59:24.7  [Sim]F.US.MESU21  Scale-Out: Canceled OCO/Child order  54423  54423  Limit  1  Sell  4552    Pending Cancel
Orders  59:24.7  [Sim]F.US.MESU21  Simulated order canceled  54423  54423  Limit  1  Sell  4552    Canceled
Orders  59:24.7  [Sim]F.US.MESU21  Scale-Out: Canceled OCO/Child order  54424  54424  Stop  1  Sell  4541.5    Pending Cancel
Orders  59:24.7  [Sim]F.US.MESU21  Simulated order canceled  54424  54424  Stop  1  Sell  4541.5    Canceled
Orders  59:24.7  [Sim]F.US.MESU21  Scale-Out: Canceled OCO/Child order  54430  54430  Stop  1  Sell  4541.5    Pending Cancel
Orders  59:24.7  [Sim]F.US.MESU21  Simulated order canceled  54430  54430  Stop  1  Sell  4541.5    Canceled


Every order was placed with attached oco orders which contain 1 target and 1 stop. They were placed with 'buy market' and scaling out using 'sell market'

I can see when the orders are placed that the stop orders go up sequentially. 1-2-3 However when marketing out jump from 3 to 1

Is there some setting I am missing on why the scale outs would have more stops associated?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-09-06 18:02:10
[2021-09-06 19:44:05]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14423
We do see why this condition occurs and it has now been resolved and we will have a new release out before morning. It relates to using Even Distribution.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

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[2021-09-06 19:52:03]
Ben A - Posts: 123
Wow, OK cool, will update tomorrow.

Many thanks,

Ben
[2021-09-07 07:50:51]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Prerelease 2307 is now available.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
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[2021-09-07 08:27:34]
Ben A - Posts: 123
Thank you guys, just tried 2307 pre-release and everything is working just fine with scaling out now.

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