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No trade fills or trade activity in autotrade syst.rep.backtest

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[2021-06-07 18:24:09]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
For some reason this isnt working anymore. Im updated to newest version and tried a previous version. My alerts are working and being sent during replay. Im using accurate replay mode, i have my order attached, and have tried with service connected and disconnected. Also tried symbols from forex (eurusd, gbpusd, usdcad0 and binance (btcusdt, maticusdt) and those dont seem to make a difference. Trade simlulation is on. Ive also tried messing with the attached order changing its set up as well with no luck. What could I be missing?
[2021-06-07 18:34:46]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31704
We assume that you are saying that your Auto Trading system is not firing during a replay. What kind of trading system are you using? Is this a custom ACSIL trading system, a Spreadsheet, or other Sierra Chart trading system?

And, are there definitely conditions being met where you should be getting the trade? Are the Alerts you mention a direct reflection of what should be orders?
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[2021-06-07 21:29:52]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
Using Sierra Charting system. Alert condition are definitely being met and are what the order should be also.
[2021-06-07 21:40:27]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31704
What are you using for your trading system?
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-06-07 21:49:53]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
Using the color backround based on alert condition in sierra charts.
imagealert pic 2.JPG / V - Attached On 2021-06-07 21:47:40 UTC - Size: 108.56 KB - 153 views
Attachment Deleted.
[2021-06-07 22:14:37]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31704
We are somewhat confused. The Color Background Based on Alert Condition study will not, and can not, send orders. Are you just looking for the background change and you are not seeing that, but you are getting the audible alert? Or is there something else we are missing in this?

We see that at Line #2 of the list of studies (ID #18) there is a custom study that did not load properly. Is that study the one that actually places the trades based on the inputs from other studies? If so, then you would need to understand why that study is no longer there.
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[2021-06-08 21:38:38]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
Im using the trade based on alert system function. When my alert becoms true it is supposed to buy. My alert is working but not getting any trade activity
[2021-06-09 13:44:39]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31704
We are still a bit confused. In the list of studies that you show in the image in post #5 there is not a "Trading System Based on Alert Condition" study listed. If the Color Background is performing the same Alert conditions, then that would be why you are getting the alert but not the trade.

If we just missed something somehow and your study is there, then make sure the Alert Condition is Enabled and that the study itself is Enabled. Check over the rest of the Inputs for the study to ensure they are set correctly for what you are trying to do (send to your trade service or Simulation, etc.).
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
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[2021-06-09 13:49:19]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
Here is the correct pic. Sorry
imageID 15 setting of trade based on alert system.JPG / V - Attached On 2021-06-09 13:48:21 UTC - Size: 200.97 KB - 158 views
[2021-06-09 13:53:17]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
I have run this many different ways. I do have the color alert and the trade based on alert running the exact same conditions. Are you saying to remove the color based alert conditions?
[2021-06-09 14:21:04]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31704
Are you saying to remove the color based alert conditions?

No, not at all. We were just confused as we did not see the study listed.

Are you getting any orders placed when you are NOT running a backtest? Is this only during the backtesting that you are having an issue?

Did you check the Alert tab and ensure that the Alert is "Enabled" on that tab?
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-06-09 16:26:09]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
No orders at all as far as i can tell backtest or otherwise that i can tell. But im unaware of how else to get the orders to process without running a backtest, so i apologize. The alert tab is enabled for all, including the trade based on alert study.

I am getting an error in trade activity log "trading not allowed: reason is full recalculation.
[2021-06-09 16:35:15]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
Here is the very beginnging of a trade activity log after starting an accurate trade system replay backtest with a trade window attached and the enabled trading system based on alert study which contains the same formula as the color backround based on alert study that is working.


Cleared global profit/loss management data for Sim1. | 2021-06-09 16:31:56
Cleared trade data | Symbol: [Sim]MATICUSDT-BINANCE | TradeAccount: Sim1 | 2021-06-09 16:31:56
File is empty: TradeActivityLog_2020-05-25_UTC.data | 2021-06-09 16:31:56
Error opening: C:\SierraChart 1917\TradeActivityLogs\TradeActivityLog_2020-05-25_UTC.data | 2021-06-09 16:31:56 *
TradeActivity files query time: 0.199937 seconds. | 2021-06-09 16:31:56
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:31:58 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:31:58
TradeActivity files query time: 0.002800 seconds. | 2021-06-09 16:32:00
File is empty: TradeActivityLog_2020-05-25_UTC.data | 2021-06-09 16:32:00
TradeActivity files query time: 0.140843 seconds. | 2021-06-09 16:32:00
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:01 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:01
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:01 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:01
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:05 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:05
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:05 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:05
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:06 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:06
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:07 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:07
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:07 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:07
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:07 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:07
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:07 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:07
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:09 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:09
[2021-06-09 17:08:33]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31704
We see that you are on version 1917. Is there a reason for you to be on this version You really need to update to the latest version, as there have been multiple changes along the way that are making it impossible for us to help with older versions.

We are curious though, as to what your Trade Service Log shows. Open that window by going to Trade >> Trade Service Log and then copy and paste the information in that window into this thread.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-06-09 17:14:02]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
Cleared global profit/loss management data for Sim1. | 2021-06-09 16:31:56
Cleared trade data | Symbol: [Sim]MATICUSDT-BINANCE | TradeAccount: Sim1 | 2021-06-09 16:31:56
File is empty: TradeActivityLog_2020-05-25_UTC.data | 2021-06-09 16:31:56
Error opening: C:\SierraChart 1917\TradeActivityLogs\TradeActivityLog_2020-05-25_UTC.data | 2021-06-09 16:31:56 *
TradeActivity files query time: 0.199937 seconds. | 2021-06-09 16:31:56
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:31:58 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:31:58
TradeActivity files query time: 0.002800 seconds. | 2021-06-09 16:32:00
File is empty: TradeActivityLog_2020-05-25_UTC.data | 2021-06-09 16:32:00
TradeActivity files query time: 0.140843 seconds. | 2021-06-09 16:32:00
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:01 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:01
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:01 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:01
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:05 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:05
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:05 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:05
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:06 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:06
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:07 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:07
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:07 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:07
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:07 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:07
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:07 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:07
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:09 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:09
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:09 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:09
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:11 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:11
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:12 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:12
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:12 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:12
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:14 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:14
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:14 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:14
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:15 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:15
Trade Order Error: Current service package does not support this function. Select 'Help >> Account Control Panel' to change your package. | 2021-06-09 16:32:16 *
Chart: Replay 1920X: MATICUSDT-BINANCE[M] 5 Min #4 | Study: Trading System Based on Alert Condition | General order error. Refer to 'Trade >> Trade Service Log' for specific message for this trading action error | 2021-06-09 16:32:16
TradeActivity files query time: 0.002698 seconds. | 2021-06-09 16:32:18
Trading is not allowed. Reason: Is full recalculation | 2021-06-09 16:32:18
Trading is not allowed. Reason: Formula state has not changed | 2021-06-09 16:32:18
[2021-06-09 17:23:54]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
I did all the same process in the latest version as well. Same issues but I can go back to it if needed.
[2021-06-09 18:43:40]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31704
Definitely the first thing is to get up to a current release. There are too many possibilities of things that are just not going to work that we need to avoid. Once you are on the current release, try again and see what messages you get and post them here from both the Message Log and the Trade Service Log.
For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-06-09 19:51:30]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
Here is the new version attached pic with trade log. I stopped using the new one because some of my alerts stopped working due to something in the updates. All alerts worked on older versions perfectly. In addition I have my current issue weve been over regarding the trade not being taken in the trade alert backtest study. Here is the new version attached pic with trade log.
imagesierra 2270.JPG / V - Attached On 2021-06-09 19:49:04 UTC - Size: 333.52 KB - 143 views
[2021-06-10 21:18:15]
Joe Kurtz - Posts: 12
any thoughts or updates on what i should do or what might be the issue?
[2021-06-15 05:24:50]
Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 14423
Here is the new version attached pic with trade log. I stopped using the new one because some of my alerts stopped working due to something in the updates. All alerts worked on older versions perfectly. In addition I have my current issue weve been over regarding the trade not being taken in the trade alert backtest study. Here is the new version attached pic with trade log.

It is really impossible for us to know what has changed which is affecting the trading system. The general approach is that you need to enable detailed debugging:
Study/Chart Alerts And Scanning: Log Evaluated Formula at Each Evaluation

And then run a slower speed manual replay and look at the formula at each chart update. This is an example of what you will see in the Alerts Log:
=35.802 > 30 | No alert sound/email.

Regarding the message at post #18, we have enhanced that and it is now more detailed like this:
Trading is not allowed. Reason: Formula state has not changed. Current state: False. BarDate-Time: 2021-06-14 02:03:00.000000 | 2021-06-15 01:08:39.970

This enhanced logging will be out in version 2274.
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