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Trailing Stops in Bond Futures - TT

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[2014-03-07 15:32:52]
User53900 - Posts: 5
When trading the bond futures, ZB-201406-CME, simulated using the TT data feed, trailing stops seem to work well, but a trailing stop used as an attached order just results in it being a regular stop. Similarly, using an automated trading system, an attached order trailing stop turns out just to be a stop. This is true with the bonds but not crude oil or other products. This is true on the TT feed but not other feeds. An attached shows the trailing stop attached orders and how they don't modify. What should be the settings trading bonds on TT?
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[2014-03-07 22:04:39]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Thank you for this. This is pending review.
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[2014-03-13 08:41:51]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We do not observe a problem with this. We see no reason in the code why this would occur and we tested it using live trading data when connected to TT FIX.

A Trailing Stop Attached Order did get automatically adjusted:
ActivityType  DateTime  Symbol  OrderActionSource  InternalOrderID  ServiceOrderID  OrderType  Quantity  BuySell  Price  Price2  OrderStatus  FillPrice  FilledQuantity  TradeAccount  OpenClose  ParentInternalOrderID  PositionQuantity  FillExecutionServiceID  
Order  2014-03-13 04:34:13.000  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  ZB-201406-CBOT 10 Min #1 | User order entry | Last: 132.0625  19799    Trailing Stop    Sell  131 30/32    Pending Child      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:34:13.001  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  ZB-201406-CBOT 10 Min #1 | User order entry | Last: 132.0625  19798    Limit  1  Buy  132 8/32    Order Sent      Sim  Open        
Order  2014-03-13 04:34:13.002  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Simulated order accepted  19798  19798  Limit  1  Buy  132 8/32    Open      Sim  Open        
Order  2014-03-13 04:34:13.003  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Trade simulation fill. Bid: 132 7/32 Ask: 132 8/32  19798  19798  Limit  1  Buy  132 8/32    Filled  132 8/32  1  Sim  Open        
Order  2014-03-13 04:34:13.005  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Auto-sent child from parent fill  19799    Trailing Stop  1  Sell  131 30/32    Order Sent      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:34:13.006  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Simulated order accepted  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  131 30/32    Open      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:34:37.000  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  ZB-201406-CBOT 10 Min #1 | User order modification  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  131 30/32    Pending Modify      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:34:37.001  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Simulated order modify complete  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  131 28/32    Open      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:37:47.000  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 132.250000  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  131 28/32    Pending Modify      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:37:47.001  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Simulated order modify complete  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  132 2/32    Open      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:37:47.002  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 132.343750  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  132 2/32    Pending Modify      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:37:47.003  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Simulated order modify complete  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  132 5/32    Open      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:37:47.004  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 132.375000  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  132 5/32    Pending Modify      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:37:47.005  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Simulated order modify complete  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  132 6/32    Open      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:37:49.001  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Auto trail order modification. Trigger price: 132.781250  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  132 6/32    Pending Modify      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:37:49.002  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Simulated order modify complete  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  132 19/32    Open      Sim  Close  19798      
Order  2014-03-13 04:37:49.003  [Sim]ZB-201406-CBOT  Trade simulation fill. Bid: 132 12/32 Ask: 133 5/32  19799  19799  Trailing Stop  1  Sell  132 19/32    Filled  132 12/32  1  Sim  Close  19798      

We recommend testing this during a chart replay since that is the easiest way to test a trailing stop especially when the replay runs at a fast speed. Do you notice a problem during a replay of ZB with the trailing stop getting automatically adjusted ?
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2014-03-13 08:44:12

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