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How NOT to automatically change the stop and profit based on entry

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[2021-01-21 17:42:48]
AC136339 - Posts: 34
Hi, as the title suggests, I would like that once the price takes my order maybe 1 or 2 ticks later,

I DO NOT want the stop and profit to move by such 1 or 2 ticks,

but to stay where I originally set them.


Many thanks in advance.
[2021-01-21 18:07:30]
John - SC Support - Posts: 31362
Refer to this setting:
Global Trade Settings Windows: Adjust Attached Orders to Maintain Same Offset on Parent Fill (Global Settings >> General Trade Settings >> General)
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[2021-01-21 18:23:09]
AC136339 - Posts: 34
If I have not misunderstood, the important thing is that these 2 options in global settings-> general trade settings are like this on NO, but it has moved me the stop and the profit despite this
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[2021-01-23 10:49:15]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This is because you are using the Sierra Chart Order Routing Service and these options are enabled on our server so this functionality cannot be disabled.
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Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-01-23 10:49:27
[2021-01-23 12:47:23]
AC136339 - Posts: 34
But for me this option is vital.

My strategies are designed for an entry of even 2 or 3 ticks farther but the stop and profit MUST stay where they originally started, otherwise it is all in vain.

So what needs to be done? not use order routing?

and if so, what should I do step by step?
[2021-01-23 13:22:08]
Sawtooth - Posts: 3993
If the stop and target price locations can be calculated, you can move them there with two instances of the Trade Management by Study study.
Attached Orders: Study Controlled Targets and Stops

You could use two instances of the Spreadsheet Formula study, or one Spreadsheet Study study, to calculate the prices, then reference their subgraphs with the Trade Management by Study study.
[2021-01-23 16:38:56]
AC136339 - Posts: 34
I have many open charts, each with its own time frame and each with its own stop and profit.

For example, I have 10m with stop 29 and profit 30 ticks, 18m with stop 25 and profit 28, and so on ...

Many charts with each their own time frame and their own stops and profits.

What do I have to do step by step to ensure that if an order is taken 2 ticks later the relative stops and profits do not move with it?

Sorry but I can't quite figure out what to do from the linked instructions ...

Calculate that I am using an English translator for both writing and reading, as my English sucks ..

I state that the orders are entered from a personalized studies.


Thank you so much in advance and forgive my ignorance ..
[2021-01-23 17:26:48]
Sawtooth - Posts: 3993
Use of the Trade Management by Study study assumes you are using Attached Orders.
My suggestion also assumes the stop and target prices can be determined with a formula.
So if the stop/target gets moved when you enter, this study will move them to their original price.

You would need two instances of the Trade Management by Study study on each chart, one for the stop and one for the target.
This study will move a stop or target to the price of the referenced subgraph.
That subgraph can be a spreadsheet column where the formula returns the price of the stop/target, using spreadsheet formula syntax.
The subgraphs can also be from two instances of the Spreadsheet Formula study, one for the stop and one for the target, using Simple Alert formula syntax.

This is workaround solution that I thought might be helpful.
[2021-01-23 19:35:10]
AC136339 - Posts: 34
Sorry but I struggle to understand.

So, I realized that you have to put 2 for each studies graph, one for target and the other for stop.

Now I come to the settings and questions:

Enabled : Yes

Order Type To Manage : Stops (for the stop and the other on the same chart I put Targets)

Crolling Subgraph Reference : Can I insert <Main Price Graph> ; my personalized studies ; Trade Managment by study (ID: 2) (here I don't know what to choose of the three)

Order Adjustment Timing : On Bar Close (what does it mean? At the closing of the bar that will make me enter the order or at the closing of the bar that took the order?) ; Every N Second (if is right this, how can I tell him "immediately if it gets moved?")

Adjustment Frequency : I think it's related to this one above.

Trailing Offset : 29 for the stop and 30 for the profit (this for a given chart)

ACS Control Bar Buttun : I don't know what to wear

Position Type : All Positions

All the rest are on : No (I don't know if that's right)

I just want that when I get taken from an order (my orders are entered with their target and stop each time, and can be either "Stop Limit" or "Limit", nothing else) and it should move a few ticks, due to the speed of the price at that moment, the stop and the target (Immediately) return to their initial place, or (but I understand that this is not possible) do not move at all.


Thanks so much and sorry.
[2021-01-23 21:19:48]
Sawtooth - Posts: 3993
This workaround solution for your situation is more complex than can be explained in a forum post.
Please contact me here:
https://www.sawtoothtrade.com/contact.html
[2021-01-24 08:25:52]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We will look into supporting maintaining the same prices on a parent fill , when using the Sierra Chart Order Routing Service.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2021-01-24 08:52:45]
AC136339 - Posts: 34
We will look into supporting maintaining the same prices on a parent fill , when using the Sierra Chart Order Routing Service.

Also because the 2 settings I have attached above do not make sense.

Will it be ready for Monday?

Otherwise I will have to contact "tomgilb", if there is no way here to make me understand how to set the settings above, but above all I understand (always from the answer of "tomgilb") that the right settings are not enough but there is more to do..
[2021-01-24 09:05:56]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
No we cannot have it ready by Monday. That is too soon for something like this.

And we would not recommend any other solution other than what we would implement. We do not recommend getting involved in some work around.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2021-01-24 09:06:10
[2021-01-24 09:12:06]
AC136339 - Posts: 34
Ok, I'll try to wait, can you tell me more or less how long the timing is?

Or, is it possible to be informed when you are done?

Thanks for all.
[2021-01-29 20:23:27]
AC136339 - Posts: 34
Sorry if it seems that I insist, but it is not so, I would just like to know more or less the timing to fix this thing, as I am unable to trade without this arrangement.

Thanks again, and I repeat it is only an organizational question I would not want to offend anyone.
[2021-10-12 02:24:21]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This is an old thread, and this functionality was implemented but we did have an issue with it and was disabled about two weeks ago but we can reenable it with further testing.

However, if you are using CQG, this server-side functionality is not relevant in this case.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing

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