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Any plans for adding other Asia-Pac exchanges (OSE, SGX, SFE) to SC data/trading?

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[2019-12-09 18:33:40]
Chad - Posts: 231
I'm currently accessing Asia-Pacific exchanges OSE, SGX and SFE (Sydney F.E.) through IB, but given the limitations of their data resolution (esp market depth), I'd certainly like an alternative - are any of these planned for addition to the SC Futures Order Routing/Data Service? I see all three listed under the 'Tradable Products' page on TT's site (SFE listed instead as ASX, with a 'Channel' as SFE).

Otherwise, they're all shown under the SC Real-time and Historical Exchange Data Feed symbols page - but this source doesn't include market depth, right?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-09 18:41:06
[2019-12-10 06:17:51]
User234172 - Posts: 44
This would be great, but unless SC also provides a local server, eg, in Japan for JPX trading, then IB data is actually the better option for for latency for anyone not based in the US but trading Asian markets. IB have a Hong Kong server, so local Asia-based traders can trade on that hub, which is at least regional and vastly closer than trading Asian markets [from a PC in EU or Asia] via a Chicago hub. Reference the recent concerns of traders in Europe trading local Eurex exchange via a Chicago hub. It makes no sense.

None of that matters if you are based in the US. But most Asian market traders are not.

If you are in Japan trading JPX using AMP and SC, here is what happens:

1. Market data is sent from JPX to Chicago
2. That data sent from Chicago back to your PC in Japan
3. You click buy, order is sent to Chicago server
4. Your order is sent from Chicago back to Japan
5. Order fill confirmation is sent from Japan to Chicago
6. Order fill confirmation is sent from Chicago to your PC in Japan

All that time, you could live 20 minutes walk from the JPX data center. Insane.

CQG has a server in Japan and other Asian countries, but most US brokers do not use them.

Unless SC data services can resolve this, you may as well just stick with CQG, or use IB.

There are brokers who will route you via the CQG Japan server, but they are expensive and/or do not support SC. The cleanest option is to use CQG IC, at $1000+ per month[!!]
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-10 06:37:25
[2019-12-10 12:57:14]
User76183 - Posts: 68
Interesting notes!
As I heard APM with CQG has some local Asian servers, probably not in Japan.
Why orders would be routed through US in that case anyway?
I mean AMP+CQG( any Asian server)+ SC.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-10 12:58:11
[2019-12-10 20:48:52]
User234172 - Posts: 44
CQG has a server in Japan and are listed on the JPX website as a data partner. But AMP doesn't use it. Don't know why.
[2019-12-10 23:46:22]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
For these exchanges we recommend either Interactive Brokers or CQG. We do not plan to support market data for these exchanges anytime soon.

When using CQG, the server is automatically chosen based upon your location. How the data is ultimate route in the background we do not know though.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-10 23:47:24
[2019-12-11 00:11:10]
User234172 - Posts: 44
"How the data is ultimate route in the background we do not know though."

For other interested in this topic: this ^ comes down the the broker's resources. You can check the IP address in the SC logs: Even if your broker says that you are set for a preferred location in Asia, it does not mean you are getting data from, nor trading on, that server. Again, check the IP in the SC logs. Case in point: AMP does not have access to the Tokyo CQG server (confirmed by both AMP and CQG. Something to do with Omnibus accounts). Example: Due to AMP limitations, if you trade NKMJ with AMP and CQG, you are trading via Chicago, an incredibly inefficient solution for anyone not in the US.

Therefore, I have spoken with a few brokers in the US, Japan and Singapore who use the CQG local Asian servers. Unfortunately, none are "set up for" clients using Sierra Chart. One said they will get me set up using SC, and that it shouldn't be a problem. That remains uncertain.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-12-11 00:12:37
[2019-12-27 19:37:51]
Chad - Posts: 231
Thanks for the details on this, 172!
[2020-01-15 21:05:20]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Just want to give an update here, we are looking into adding JPX. We will have more clear of an idea about this we hope during the next 90 days.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2020-01-16 22:44:59]
User76183 - Posts: 68
Chad, can you open PM for me, pls?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2020-01-16 22:45:30

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