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Replay mode stops working if you press pause and then play again

[2019-08-07 10:51:41]
User884307 - Posts: 160
Hi

As the header describes, Replay mode stops working if (after it starts replaying) you press pause and then play again.

It IS working fine in 1952.......untill i upgraded!

Cheers
[2019-08-07 11:38:05]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
What version do you notice this with? It might be related to the new ACSIL functions to control chart replays. We do not notice this problem with 1967.

We also do not notice this with prerelease 1970 either.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-07 11:42:30
[2019-08-07 11:49:37]
User884307 - Posts: 160
Hi, thanks for the reply 🙏

1954 works normally, anything after that right upto current version doesn't work!

Thanks
[2019-08-07 11:58:53]
User884307 - Posts: 160
UPDATE: v1959 is the last version to work as normal, anything after doesn't work.
[2019-08-07 13:54:29]
User884307 - Posts: 160
Hey guys, just been running 1959....the market is fast now (real time) and Sierra Chart for the first time ever slow as hell ... as slow as XTrader was years back when I switched over to SC.

1952 WORKS OK ..... I dont know what code your changing but its making SC run like a dying dog !!!

Please review your code ..... play back AND very slow in fast markets

(I am running latest i7 with 64gb ram and SSD drives ... so its not me!)
[2019-08-07 18:15:20]
User884307 - Posts: 160
Hi

Any updates on this situation?

thanks
[2019-08-07 18:45:30]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
Regarding post #5, refer to:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/helpdetails30.html

Nothing has changed between versions in regards to performance. In general newer versions have higher performance over time.

But if you are using Bid and Ask Depth Bars study, refer to:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/StudiesReference.php&ID=213&Name=Bid_Ask_Depth_Bars#ImprovingPerformanceOfThisStudy

If you are trading CME markets we recommend using this data feed for better performance:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/DenaliExchangeDataFeed.php
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-07 18:46:36
[2019-08-07 19:08:34]
User884307 - Posts: 160
I am totally confused now.

version 1952 works perfectly with fast markets, playback etc etc Never had a problem with SC with regards being slow...in any way

I go to version 1959 and its terrible (im not exagerating, its like the old XTrader at market close) .... this is a few upgrades over a week or so 1952 ---> 1959+? Surely such a degredation of performance in such a sort period of updates is no acceptable? It worries me that you point me to computer minimum specs as though this is the problem? arrrrrgh!!!!

My computer is not a problem in this scenarion as mentioned in #5.

Also, the playback problem with 1959 onwards? has this been fixed ?

I have jumped over historic hurdles with issues but am i right in saying that performance is going to remain at this level?

Like i say something terrible has happened because v1952 works perfectly, even the playback works without any problems?

can you explain why 1952 works perfectly and a week or so later there's big problems?
[2019-08-08 06:42:27]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
Whenever we get reports like this, it really is impossible from our perspective, to know what the issue is. And there is always some other explanation than what the users think. It is not like the newer versions are slower. That is definitively not true and we would never believe that because it makes no technical sense. And if you are using CQG, CQG market data processing is going to be more efficient with market depth now.

Make sure you have the Replay Mode set to Standard Replay:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/ReplayChart.html#ReplayMode

What is the replay speed?


Also, the playback problem with 1959 onwards? has this been fixed ?

We have not been able to reproduce a problem.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-08 06:52:50
[2019-08-08 06:52:15]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
Actually, we know what the problem is. In your most recent post you are mentioning 1959 and there is a difference in the way that version works with timers. There is not any performance issue, but there are more frequent updates. This is talked about here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?ThreadID=44268

However, the current version of Sierra Chart which is 1967, does not have this change until we have more time to improve upon it. So if you update to 1967 you will not notice any change.
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[2019-08-08 06:55:20]
User884307 - Posts: 160
I've always used Calculate at Every Tick/Trade up until Version 1952 with complete success.

Since v1959 this option stops working when you hit pause and then replay...
Standard replay is OK but not as accurate in my experience.
Can this option be fixed please to as it was before v1959.
I will monitor the slow performance issues also.
Thanks
[2019-08-08 07:08:43]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
See post #10 above. We know what the problem is. The reason we did not catch on to this at first, is that these messages were interpreted within the context of what is the current version of Sierra Chart which does not have any issue like you are describing.
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[2019-08-08 10:13:36]
User884307 - Posts: 160
OK I've upgraded to 1971, "accurate trading system back test mode" & "calc at every tick/Trade" still don't work AFTER you press pause & then play again....Only "standard replay" works using pause & play....

I'll check out performance at market open of 1971 (hopefully as you say, all fixed with that aspect 🙏)
[2019-08-08 10:23:59]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
We will look into the replay issue again.
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[2019-08-09 10:27:30]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
We are unable to reproduce any replay issue like described in post #13.
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[2019-08-09 10:41:27]
User884307 - Posts: 160
I have transferred my charts across to a new install of SC v1972, still does it. Create new chart in new install and still does it.
The only thing that works as it should is standard replay.
Like I say, v1952 works completely correctly so there is obviously some changes that have effected this functionality, otherwise if it was me then v1952 wouldn't work either, would it?
Performance is OK though in latest version 👍
[2019-08-09 17:43:23]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
Set your telephone number here:
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Let us know when that is done and we will call you sometime after the close to look into this.
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[2019-08-09 19:56:06]
User884307 - Posts: 160
Hi will do over weekend if OK as now not good. Talk Monday if tomorrow?

Thankyou for your attention to this, I really appreciate it 🙏👍👍
[2019-08-10 23:22:07]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
We can definitely look into it over this weekend. Let us know about Sunday.

And please set your telephone number or a Skype username.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-10 23:22:17
[2019-08-13 19:30:13]
User92573 - Posts: 113
Dear Support

I'm not sure if this is related but I'm noticing sync issues between different markets on playback - standard replay - even at just 360X.

Currently I have 4 different markets and identical the timeframes, 12 mins for example will be out of sync by an hour even after just 2 months of data replay. May not seem an issue but its important I keep them the same.

I have tried it with skip empty periods both checked and unchecked, just in case this was causing an issue but it's still occuring.

Is this to be expected? It wasnt an issue in the past.

Currently on V1971 32Bit and 28 charts in chartbook.

Many thanks
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-13 19:34:36
[2019-08-13 21:15:17]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
There should not be any synchronization issues. Here is the relevant documentation for that:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/ReplayChart.html#AutomaticSkippingOfPeriodsWhereThereIsNoTradingAndSynchronization

You definitely need to keep Skip Empty Periods unchecked consistently during the replay.

But you are also replaying months of data, so the question is what are the symbols? It is also important to make sure there is no missing data in those charts.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-13 21:20:15
[2019-08-13 22:06:29]
User92573 - Posts: 113
Thank you the documentation on replay is very useful and was my first source of reference.

The markets being replayed are GBPUSD; EURUSD; USDJPY; USDCAD and all charts and timeframes have ASCIL studies.

My understanding was that if I am not skipping empty periods and given that all of the data I'm using for this is 1 minute, then I'd assumed SC would maintain synchronisation across all markets and timeframes, irrespective of whether it was actually Futures, SPOT FX or anything else?

1) Just to be sure, is this the case, or is it likely I'll still lose synchronisation irrespective?

2) I'm not auto-trading, or using tick data so the documaentation suggests ther use of - accurate trading system back test mode - to maintain synchronisation is not necessary, in addition this setting causes an issue for me as I cannot watch the bars unfold. As stated in the - replay section - as it will jump bars. For example on a 3 minute chart it may jump from 15:39:00 to 16:03:00; making - accurate trading system back test mode - not suitable for visual playback..

Out of interest, when I replay using a specific - start date-time - I notice that USDCAD and EURUSD are almost immediately 1 bar ahead of the GBPUSD and USDJPY on the 3 min charts which grows as time elapses.

On the 12 min charts when paused the EURUSD and USDJPY are almost immediately 1 bar ahead of the GBPUSD and USDCAD which is not even consistent with the 3 min chart at start?

Certainly I'm a little confused by this and possibly missing something.

Many thanks.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-14 08:19:22
[2019-08-14 09:42:07]
User92573 - Posts: 113
Update - additional issue noticed.
All Charts
Standard replay
Skip Empty Periods (not selected)
Speed 360

28 charts comprising 4 markets in chartbook; resource monitor low; ASCIL studies/indicators running in charts; not auto-trading; data start JAN 2012.

When charts go out of sync I pause and restart. Charts seem to re-align themselves. However, if I pause and go back << "To the next bar" one line of charts (7 for same symbol)go right back to the beginning of the data file 2007 with each showing just 1 bar at start of each of the 7 charts.

When I select play the 2007 charts begin to replay while the other 21 charts (3 markets) are frozen (waiting for catch I suppose) at 2012-01-25; the date when paused.

Another concern is that when paused the charts with the same market/symbol do not reflect the same price and are oftern few points out - even though I felt they were built from the same 1 minute data file? Concern here is that bars may form differently, during different replays, over the same data.

Grateful for your thoughts

Many thanks
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-14 10:31:51
[2019-08-21 21:31:22]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
Out of interest, when I replay using a specific - start date-time - I notice that USDCAD and EURUSD are almost immediately 1 bar ahead of the GBPUSD and USDJPY on the 3 min charts which grows as time elapses.

On the 12 min charts when paused the EURUSD and USDJPY are almost immediately 1 bar ahead of the GBPUSD and USDCAD which is not even consistent with the 3 min chart at start?
What is the Replay speed? We will try to reproduce.
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[2019-08-26 08:20:56]
Acro - Posts: 342
I have this issue whenever I choose accurate trading back system test and all charts in chartbook and start at specific time.
It does not matter what speed I choose
[2019-09-07 16:20:39]
User92573 - Posts: 113
Sorry for the delay. Slow. 240 - 480X. Also on pause some charts go blank when restarted and go back to the beginning of the data file while the paused charts at the correct date sit there waiting for those that went back to the beginning to catch up. All replay related.
[2019-09-09 06:08:11]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
In regards to post #26, something like this sounds like the replay is being started at a date-time earlier than the chart is loading at. Check the Days to Load setting for the chart to make sure it is high enough to correspond with the Date and Time you are starting the replay at:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/ChartSettings.html#DaysToLoad
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-09 06:08:51
[2019-10-21 13:40:16]
jmt816 - Posts: 22
I have been experiencing similar issue re: pausing replay then pressing play again intermittently does not work, and requires restarting Sierra.

I am using v1997
[2019-10-21 14:18:56]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
Post #28 definitively cannot be true at all. The idea that you have to restart to resume a replay is definitively untrue. We would have to look at this with you during a remote assistance session. We could do this after the close sometime this week.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-10-21 14:19:43
[2019-10-21 15:04:32]
jmt816 - Posts: 22
I am not able to replicate it consistently, since it is an intermittent issue. I have not yet been able to determine the steps to reproduce consistently, so would be hard to show you (other than sitting thru lots of time for it to occur).

I see from your reply to my post on another thread (https://www.sierrachart.com/SupportBoard.php?PostID=195179#P195179) to check on the latest pre-release build.

Will try that out and advise back here if that has fixed it or not.
Thanks for the offer of remote session, will advise if that is necessary.
[2019-10-21 16:31:21]
User884307 - Posts: 160
Post #28 ... I started this thread, I'm now on v1997... Something happened after v1959 because it worked fine before that.... Standard replay is OK (you can pause, start, pause etc) with no problems.
If accurate trading sys BT... OR.. Calc every tick is selected... Works perfectly until you hit pause, when you hit play again it updates what feels like every minute as opposed to every second (as originally selected).
Just saying... I use other S/W for this now as there's definitely a problem (after 1959) but nobody wants to admit it, seems everyone that reports it is the one being mistaken? 🤔🤔😬😬😬
[2019-10-21 21:14:46]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
. Works perfectly until you hit pause, when you hit play again it updates what feels like every minute as opposed to every second (as originally selected).
We think we know the reason for this and it is resolved in the latest release. It would be if you are replaying multiple charts using Accurate Trading System Back Test Mode.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-10-21 21:15:35
[2019-10-21 22:58:47]
User884307 - Posts: 160
Will give it a go, thanks! 🤞🤞🤞🤞
[2019-10-22 12:05:15]
jmt816 - Posts: 22
We think we know the reason for this and it is resolved in the latest release. It would be if you are replaying multiple charts using Accurate Trading System Back Test Mode.
that is exactly what i am doing.
When i try to update to "the latest release" the installer says i already have it (v1997). I see release notes for later version, though. Is the version that fixes this issue released yet, or still in pre-release?
Thanks
[2019-10-22 12:19:30]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
You need to use Help >> Download Prerelease.
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[2019-10-22 12:20:37]
User884307 - Posts: 160
#34 pre release... I always use pre release gives you the heads up for any potential incoming calamities! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😂😂😂😂
[2019-10-22 12:23:46]
User884307 - Posts: 160
Omg! After exactly 2 months since I created this thread, all is working again in v2002!

43 updates later 😂😂😂😂

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
[2019-10-22 13:16:23]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 78335
Regarding post #37, we really must have misunderstood the problem. Actually it was not until someone told us precisely what specifically they noticed is wrong, did we recognize it.
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[2019-10-22 13:42:31]
User884307 - Posts: 160
Does post #1 not do this?

Anyhow thanks for getting it sorted and thankful of others having same problem otherwise we may never have got to the bottom of it!
[2019-10-22 21:47:12]
bradh - Posts: 226
Does post #1 not do this?

Quote from post #1:

Replay mode stops working if (after it starts replaying) you press pause and then play again.

At first, it appeared it wasn't working.

Actually it was working if you waited 60 seconds. The Step Processing Time was getting reset to 60 instead of 1 where I always have it. Too bad we cannot change that default.

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