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[Sticky] - Notice: New Service Packages Bundling CME data

[2019-06-24 15:32:36]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Effective July 1, assuming there are no unexpected technical complications, we will be releasing new service packages which bundle the CME data. We will announce pricing in the next few days.

The standard CME exchange fees also have to be paid. But there will be no exchange fees due until August assuming you activate the package in July.

This new data feed is called the "Bundled Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed".

It differs from the Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed which we currently offer. It only provides CME data at this time. If you need the CME data and other exchanges you need to continue to use the non-bundled data feed.

We gradually are going to move users over who just requires CME data without any action on your part to the new bundled data feed, during the month of July.

This new data feed will allow two real-time connections and no symbol limits.

And later, we will be providing streaming delayed CME data to our other service packages as well.
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[2019-06-25 00:41:13]
Acro - Posts: 325
Q.
If we have a subscription to eg Service Package 5 that has months left before expiry will we able to "upgrade" to the new bundles in July ?
[2019-06-25 02:18:07]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
What we have decided is that there are going to be two new service options for this data feed. Not new service packages.

20 USD/month for the data feed for use with the Sierra Chart Order Routing service.
35 USD/month for the data feed when not used with the Sierra Chart Order Routing service.

This will support up to two real-time connections. That is all the CME will allow at the nonprofessional fees.

Regarding symbol limits, we will not impose them unless we see there is a problem. So they could be imposed at a later time.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-06-25 02:18:23
[2019-06-25 16:32:20]
seandunaway - Posts: 70
This is the CME full group bundle with depth?

That's a really great deal.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-06-25 16:35:11
[2019-06-25 18:09:41]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Exchange fees are extra. You will be able to choose among all of the different CME exchange fees.
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[2019-06-25 20:37:53]
User379468 - Posts: 165
This new data feed is called the "Bundled Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed".

It differs from the Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed which we currently offer. It only provides CME data at this time.

1. Do these option prices include Sierrachart direct account? Or is that not needed to use the SC order routing with a broker provided SC package?

2. Are all CME exchanges included?

3. Any other differences in the feed quality/speed vs the non-bundled SC Feed?
[2019-06-25 21:00:07]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
1. No they do not. They are in addition. But you can also use Sierra Chart provided by your broker with these data feed options.
2. Exchange fees are extra.
3. No differences.
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[2019-06-25 21:40:24]
User379468 - Posts: 165
1. Does CME data include all CME exchanges, NYMEX, COMEX, etc?

2. Will there be a without market depth/top of book only exchange fee option, for all CME exchanges bundle?
[2019-06-25 21:57:35]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
1. Yes this is the case. All 4 market data centers.

2 Yes, whatever the CME makes available and what we have now, will be part of the exchange options.
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[2019-06-25 22:08:12]
User138602 - Posts: 126
I am currently using AMP Futures. How do i setup my broker for minimal costs? In the end, what AMP costs would i have if i use your orderrouting service and CME bundle?
[2019-06-26 02:54:26]
User753428 - Posts: 58
I would love to use this service with the SC Order Routing Service once we can get the order routing costs billed directly from our AMP accounts. That would be awesome!
[2019-06-26 13:18:36]
amirN - Posts: 119
Currently I am paying $25 a month for 20 real-time symbols data feed, are you saying that from 1st of July this fee is going up to $35?
[2019-06-26 14:03:32]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
In response to post #12, we need to think about that. We may just set the price at 30 instead of 35.
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[2019-06-27 02:08:25]
Acro - Posts: 325
Per Post#12, I believe quite a few subscribers are on Interactive Brokers for trade execution due to location etc and it would be harsh to penalize them until we can make the Sierra routing service work for us.

20 symbols can be enough for some futures traders
[2019-06-27 04:40:58]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
We will initially make the price 25 USD per month instead of the 35 for the new data feed if you are not using the SC order routing service.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-06-27 04:45:37
[2019-06-27 13:22:37]
User735587 - Posts: 8
Hi,

You feed is not available in Europe yet. Is there an update oncoming with European Accounts?

Is there an update to connect through DTC your data to bookmap?

Thanks
[2019-06-27 13:56:38]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Why do you say it is not available in Europe? It is. Unless you are talking about EUREX data routed through Frankfurt.

European accounts are supported.
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[2019-06-28 05:35:57]
User735587 - Posts: 8
Why do you say it is not available in Europe? It is. Unless you are talking about EUREX data routed through Frankfurt.

European accounts are supported.

I was referring to CME as I asked the last couple of weeks to different brokers and they are said that at the moment it was restricted to US accounts only.
[2019-06-28 06:32:02]
amirN - Posts: 119
I have accounts with both Gain and TransAct and have no problem trading CME futures from UK and no problem with SC data.
[2019-06-28 13:35:14]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297

I was referring to CME as I asked the last couple of weeks to different brokers and they are said that at the moment it was restricted to US accounts only.
There are no restrictions
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[2019-06-28 19:36:00]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
This new data feed is going to require version 1943 or higher to use. You can update with Help >> Download Prerelease ..

We did expect it would be supported with 1939 or higher but there was one additional change that is needed to support it and that is in 1943.
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[2019-06-28 20:45:21]
User379468 - Posts: 165
We will initially make the price 25 USD per month instead of the 35 for the new data feed if you are not using the SC order routing service.

1. What exactly is bundled with the new bundled feed?

2. Any way for a cheaper option with the new bundled feed than the current $20 feed?

3. Any way for an even cheaper feed option for using with the SC Order Routing?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-06-29 01:36:25
[2019-06-29 13:51:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Another change has been made in Sierra Chart to support this data feed. Version 1944 or higher will be required. You can update with Help >> Download Prerelease.

Furthermore, this data feed will not be available until sometime between 12 PM to 1 PM US Eastern time on July 1. As long as you do not need it immediately at the beginning of the month, then just wait for the option to be available. Otherwise, you will need to activate the existing Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed.


When available this new data feed can be activated here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=ServicesActivation

It will just be an additional service on your account. The name of the data feed, is called the "Denali Data Feed". This distinguishes it from the Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed. We will provide further details, at the time it is released.

If you are a user of the Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed, at the beginning of the month or any time during July you will be able to switch to this new data feed at no additional cost. But if you do not need the real-time Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed before July 1, 2 PM, then please wait for this feed to become available and do not activate or renew the Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-06-29 13:52:06
[2019-07-01 21:43:03]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
We did not yet get this data feed released but it is going to be released this evening (July 1).
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[2019-07-02 01:28:55]
Acro - Posts: 325
Your post above says the initial price for non routing customers was to be USD25 but when I go to the control panel it says USD30.

Can you please clarify
[2019-07-02 02:48:26]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Yes we did not yet adjust this price but there is not going to be any cost for you this month since you already have the existing Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed active.
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[2019-07-02 04:31:35]
jaxscott1 - Posts: 20
Will current Exchange Data Feed customers automatically be switched over to the Denali Feed or should we be subscribing to this new feed and things happen from there?
[2019-07-02 04:34:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Gradually everyone who is using CME data only with the Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed will be moved over this month. But you are welcome to just switch over to it at any time.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-07-02 04:34:21
[2019-07-02 07:02:19]
amirN - Posts: 119
I have enabled it on my account but it took $29.06 in addition to my monthly data feed of $25. Please reimburse the $29.06.
Also Crude is not updating in real-time.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-07-02 10:26:23
[2019-07-02 11:25:24]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
I have enabled it on my account but it took $29.06 in addition to my monthly data feed of $25. Please reimburse the $29.06.
We will take care of this.

Also Crude is not updating in real-time.
In regards to this, follow the instructions below:

Follow the instructions here to clear the Message Log:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/MessageLog.html#Clearing

Reconnect to the data feed:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/FileMenu.html#ProcedureToReconnect

After about 30 seconds, provide a copy of the Message Log following these instructions:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=PostingInformation.php#MessageLog
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[2019-07-02 12:07:08]
amirN - Posts: 119
I have just realised I have not included NYMEX in my list of supported exchanges. Please change my exchange to the full CME group one (Full CME Group (CME, CBOT, COMEX, NYMEX) with Market Depth for nonprofessional Trading accounts).

Thanks
[2019-07-02 12:19:47]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
You need to activate that exchange here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=DenaliDataFeed
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[2019-07-02 14:27:34]
amirN - Posts: 119
I can see the option:
"CME with Market Depth for nonprofessional Trading accounts Symbols: CME, GBLX"
has been deactiated now, did you do that? Is it realy deactivated? as I do not want to run into problems when I activate the full CME exchange.
[2019-07-02 17:21:20]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
I can see the option:
"CME with Market Depth for nonprofessional Trading accounts Symbols: CME, GBLX"
has been deactiated now,
This was never deactivated. It is still activated on the Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed. You need to keep in mind the Denali Exchange Data Feed is fully separate with its own exchanges and activations.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-07-02 17:21:54
[2019-07-02 18:50:15]
amirN - Posts: 119
Does this mean that if I activate the exchange for the new data feed I have two exchanges activated and paid for? Is it possible to deactivate the first one and activate the second one? How are you going to migrate everybody from the current data source to the new one?
[2019-07-02 19:18:07]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Yes but on the new Denali Exchange Data Feed, since the CME allows one exchange fee trial in any 12 month period, you can activate it without being billed.

The two data feeds can be active at the same time. Where there is an overlap with exchanges, the Denali Exchange Data Feed takes precedence when feeding Sierra Chart data.
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[2019-07-02 19:58:34]
amirN - Posts: 119
OK I have activated the new exchange data feed.How can I deactivate the previous data feed so that I do not get billed next month?
[2019-07-02 21:45:35]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Deactivate the exchanges and real-time connection here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=ExchangeDataFeedFeatures
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[2019-07-05 08:23:54]
Andreas - Posts: 411
SC, just for clarification... when you mean only CME does this also mean NO Market Stats? or dont you count that as an exchange and it'll be available with your new feed option?
[2019-07-05 09:28:38]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Market statistics are included with the Sierra Chart Service Packages. This new data feed provides data from exchanges. It is not related to market statistics. Nothing changes in regards to the market statistics you already have.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-07-05 09:28:49
[2019-07-06 16:53:09]
User390455 - Posts: 7
For the "Denali Exchange Data Feed for other services", the price on the site is $30 / month. And, in one message, you said the actual price is $25 / month, but you have not changed yet.
Can you confirm the price is $25. Tks
[2019-07-07 08:56:02]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
We will make the price adjustment to 25USD/month on Monday.
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[2019-07-07 16:03:56]
Spurious - Posts: 4
This is all super confusing. I just signed up to Sierra today. I need level 2 data for ES and CL as well as MP and TPO charts. So I payed for the $36 monthly subscription in addition to $25 data subscriptions and $15.75 full CME subscription. It seems that I overpaid. How can I contact someone to change my subscription to the new priced one. Also worst of all it seems that I'm still not getting the proper data feed (hard to tell for sure with the market closed), but I get this message in the log: Notice: Not connected to Live trading account to receive CME realtime futures data at non-professional fees. | 2019-07-07 15:49:57.098

EDIT> I have a trading account with IG.com but they don't connect with Sierra. I did sign the declaration about being a non-pro trader and having a broker. Please help :(
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-07-07 16:48:07
[2019-07-07 17:01:01]
User390455 - Posts: 7
Cool. Tks Sierra Chart Engineering.

Spurious :
IG is not a Futures Broker (FCM). You must avec a Funded Futures broker for have the discount CME (15$).
Like IB, Transact, Gain or all broker who use TT or CQG.

It's like the old SC data feed:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SierraChartRealTimeFuturesStockDataFeed.php#IntegrationWithTradingServices
[2019-07-07 17:05:03]
Spurious - Posts: 4
So I have to pay $115 OUCH! Can you please assist me in upgrading to that package without losing what I paid for already (pay the difference)?
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-07-07 17:38:54
[2019-07-07 17:44:26]
User138602 - Posts: 126
For lower prices you need to have a funded account with one of the many FUTURE contract Brokers. IG is offering CFDs. The pricing is ruled by the exchanges themself...prices cant be set by SC.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-07-08 15:12:46
[2019-07-08 09:40:23]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
This is all super confusing. I just signed up to Sierra today. I need level 2 data for ES and CL as well as MP and TPO charts. So I payed for the $36 monthly subscription in addition to $25 data subscriptions and $15.75 full CME subscription. It seems that I overpaid. How can I contact someone to change my subscription to the new priced one. Also worst of all it seems that I'm still not getting the proper data feed (hard to tell for sure with the market closed), but I get this message in the log:

Notice: Not connected to Live trading account to receive CME realtime futures data at non-professional fees. | 2019-07-07 15:49:57.098

EDIT> I have a trading account with IG.com but they don't connect with Sierra. I did sign the declaration about being a non-pro trader and having a broker. Please help :(

It is confusing because the CME makes it confusing. You did not overpay. You underpaid. The exchange fees for what you want are going to be 42 USD + 115 USD per month in addition to the cost of the data feed at 25 USD per month plus the cost of Sierra Chart at 36 USD per month. If this is ok, we will make the necessary change for you. Otherwise, we can refund the data feed. Let us know what you want to do.

It does not help to have the IG account in regards to lowering the cost of the exchange fees.

Start a ticket and let us know what you want us to do based on the above:
https://www.sierrachart.com/usercp.php?page=SupportTickets
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-07-08 09:42:35
[2019-07-08 09:48:29]
Spurious - Posts: 4
Its actually worse than that since I would need two separate $115 subscriptions to get both ES and CL from CME ($115) and NYMEX ($115). I'm glad I can get them both for free for a month, but I'm seriously evaluating my broker options. Thanks.
[2019-07-08 09:56:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
You can get the ES futures for 42 USD per month. Not 115 USD per month.
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[2019-07-09 13:58:27]
User390455 - Posts: 7
Have you any plan to add the US Stocks (Nyse, Nasdaq...) to the "Denali Exchange Data Feed"?
[2019-07-09 16:29:57]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
It is not cost-effective to add US stocks because the cost of being a direct vendor of US stock exchanges is very very high. We would lose money on that. And a lot of money.
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[2019-07-09 21:05:22]
User390455 - Posts: 7
Ok. Tks.
"Denali Exchange Data Feed" on Futures is already very good.
[2019-08-01 12:13:07]
User837393 - Posts: 17
Sorry for reviving an old here, but my Data subscription got stoped today which led me to refund the account, but I got a message that I should be using the Denali Data Feed instead. I just feel a bit confused now.

Just to ste the stage, currently paying:
Platform use : 36 USD /month
Exchange Data Feed : 25 USD /month
CME with Market Depth : 5.25 USD/ month
... so far so good,

Now, do I need to pay all of the above PLUS the 20 USD /month for the new Denali Exchange Data Feed ?
Also what is the difference between the two options for the Denali Exchnage :
1. Denali Exchange Data Feed for SC Order Routing Service (20USD)
2. Denali Exchange Data Feed for other services (25 USD)
... what do we mean by other services ?

In my case, broker is IB and mainly trading CL, ES, MES.
Thank you for assisting me in getting things going.
Best regards.
[2019-08-01 13:46:53]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Now, do I need to pay all of the above PLUS the 20 USD /month for the new Denali Exchange Data Feed ?

No. In your case you need:
Platform use : 36 USD /month

2. Denali Exchange Data Feed for other services (25 USD) (this is what you would need for Interactive Brokers)

CME with Market Depth : 5.25 USD/ month

You can activate these services from here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=ServicesActivation

It is about halfway down the page.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-01 13:47:31
[2019-08-01 14:07:41]
conr - Posts: 164
This is way confusing. Only symbol I chart is ES with market depth using SC Data - All Services. Today I went to temporarily connect to Transact with no luck. I will contact them regarding the connection. Where I am lost is the Danali feed. Am I required to have that or can I stay with SC feed? If so what is the difference?
[2019-08-01 15:11:27]
User837393 - Posts: 17
No. In your case you need:
Platform use : 36 USD /month

2. Denali Exchange Data Feed for other services (25 USD) (this is what you would need for Interactive Brokers)

CME with Market Depth : 5.25 USD/ month

You can activate these services from here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/UserControlPanel.php?page=ServicesActivation

It is about halfway down the page.

Ok I think I got all the activation milestones lined up correclty now. However why is DOM not complete, I only see 2 ticks DOM on bid and ask ? In data/trade services settings, what should I select there ? I dont see any [M] just to mention.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-01 15:50:37
[2019-08-01 18:39:27]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
In regards to post #56 you need to run version 1944 or higher when using the Denali Exchange Data Feed. Follow the instructions here:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SoftwareDownload.php#FastUpdate
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[2019-08-01 18:54:20]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
This is way confusing. Only symbol I chart is ES with market depth using SC Data - All Services. Today I went to temporarily connect to Transact with no luck. I will contact them regarding the connection. Where I am lost is the Danali feed. Am I required to have that or can I stay with SC feed? If so what is the difference?
If you only require CME data you can use the Denali feed. But you also have the Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed activated so at the moment you are all set. We will refund the Denali feed for you.

Today I went to temporarily connect to Transact with no luck.
This is because there is a different behavior change on their side with the orders connection. We are patching that. At least that is the problem we are seeing now. There was also a different problem earlier for some users that was something that only Transact could resolve.
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[2019-08-01 23:34:49]
conr - Posts: 164
Okay thank you. I still need some clarification. What is the Denali feed and will you still be offering the Sierra feed? If so what is the difference between the 2?
[2019-08-02 01:01:40]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
This is a new data feed with lower pricing and no symbol limits and allows two connections included in the cost of the data feed. It provides only CME data.

Both of these data feeds are offered:

https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SierraChartRealTimeFuturesStockDataFeed.php

https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/DenaliExchangeDataFeed.php
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[2019-08-02 10:37:28]
User657944 - Posts: 173
Do you think to offer Eurex too in the Denali Data Feed in the future?
thx
[2019-08-02 10:45:21]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Yes we are doing our best with this, but there was an unexpected issue related to the incredibly high cost of the EUREX fees that we were not initially aware of.
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[2019-08-02 12:01:11]
User657944 - Posts: 173
Yes Eurex it is more expensive than the CME since the transaction Volume is probably 1/10 of the CME.
thx
[2019-08-03 09:56:25]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Well we think the reason is more deeper than that.
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[2019-08-03 12:07:07]
User138602 - Posts: 126
I suppose the Denali feed is of the same superior quality as the regular Sierra Chart RealTime FuturesStock DataFeed in regards to tick accuracy, Market depth quality, speed and robustness...managed solely by SC ?
[2019-08-03 12:34:17]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Yes. And actually it is probably better but in general the same.
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[2019-08-03 18:34:27]
User657944 - Posts: 173
Well we think the reason is more deeper than that.
Yes it's not only for that there's a different approach from bunsiness, taxes and politics in Europe compared to US.
[2019-08-12 23:22:13]
User12089 - Posts: 173
I am a CME Group (all exchanges), Eurex and ICEUS real-time data subscriber of/through the SC Exchange Feed (aka the "old" bundle / package / option)

What I couldn't understand from all of the above posts in relation to CME Group Exchanges data feeds is:

1. Regarding Market Depth data - is it the same for the CME SC Exchange Data feed and the new "Devali" data feed / bundle in terms of price levels covered

2. Do I need to migrate to "Devali" and why ? - I still need all CME Exchanges as well as Eurex and ICEUS. But if you are saying that I will get e,g, more market depth from Devali for CME then do I need to go to Devali for CME (or I will get migrated automatically by you) and stay with the current SC Exchange Datafeed for Eurex and ICEUS

Note that in the above I don't care and hence don't ask about price differences - all I am asking is about the completeness of the data coverage of each data feed - it would be great if as part of your response to the above you provide a gap analysis and a map of gaps / differnces if any IN TERMS OF DATA NOT PRICE
[2019-08-13 02:03:22]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
1. Yes the same.


2. No. You cannot.
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[2019-08-13 13:18:38]
RIFT - Posts: 28
I had the SC Excgane datafeed tested a month ago, it was very good. As of today I have the new Denali Datafeed, now I have CL_F 100-100 Market Depth Levels, at the old datfeed I had a lot more levels. Have I set something wrong? I've set 0 Max Time & Sales Depth Levels.
[2019-08-13 14:34:14]
User379468 - Posts: 165
1. Will Denali feed add ICE?

2. Will SC Feed add lower cost option with SC order routing?
[2019-08-13 22:51:52]
Max999 - Posts: 1
I am completely new to SC. Have been using IB (funded) with Booktrader and got tired of its complexity and flakiness.

However, I am finding SC subscriptions hard to decipher. I only want to trade ES E-mini.

Can someone please tell me in the simplest terms, what is that barest minimum monthly subscription I need, using SC billed data?

At the moment as far as I can see it is:
SC platform $26 Package 3 (which is all I would need if I use IB data?)
and then, if I want to use SC data for CME instead, an additional how much? I don't need market depth data as I only trade off price/volume.

As far as I can see it is the lowest available data feed charge of $25 (20 symbols) then an additional $3.25 for the CME non-pro exchange fee, so total of $26+$25+$3.25=$54.25 per month?

Presumably if I use IB data this falls to just the straight $26 per month for the platform?

Is this correct? I feel I am missing something as the Denali feed keeps being quoted as the cheapest option for data at $42, but that does not include the $26 platform fee, right? I am totally confused!
[2019-08-14 00:00:40]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
now I have CL_F 100-100 Market Depth Levels
There is a setting which controls this. Refer to:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/DataSourceSettings.php#MaxDepthLevels

1. We definitely do not expect ICE to be added.

2. This is already available now, it is $20 a month.
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[2019-08-14 10:33:05]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
SC platform $26 Package 3 (which is all I would need if I use IB data?)
Yes.


and then, if I want to use SC data for CME instead, an additional how much? I don't need market depth data as I only trade off price/volume.
$25 USD/month + $3.25 USD/month using the Denali feed:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/DenaliExchangeDataFeed.php

As far as I can see it is the lowest available data feed charge of $25 (20 symbols) then an additional $3.25 for the CME non-pro exchange fee, so total of $26+$25+$3.25=$54.25 per month?
Yes, but no symbol limits when using the Denali feed.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-14 10:33:36
[2019-08-14 11:11:56]
RIFT - Posts: 28
Thanks, it works well with the levels now.

How can I download historical intraday data? I only see the current contract month.
[2019-08-14 16:33:09]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
How can I download historical intraday data? I only see the current contract month.
Start a new Support Board request about this. There should not be any problem with this. It sounds like there is a connectivity problem related to downloading the historical price data.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-08-14 16:33:28
[2019-09-02 14:21:41]
NotIll - Posts: 24
I came to understand that SC is planning to offer its datafeeds trough AMP(clearing). Do you have any updates on when we can expect to make the selection for your feed through AMP?
[2019-09-03 00:36:01]
User379468 - Posts: 165
1. We definitely do not expect ICE to be added.

2. This is already available now, it is $20 a month.

What's the lower cost option with Order Routing if ICE is needed?
[2019-09-03 00:48:08]
User837393 - Posts: 17
When renewing my subscription for the Denali data feed, I had to fill an agreement and sign it.
Ok, but do we have to do this every month?
[2019-09-03 01:38:42]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
I came to understand that SC is planning to offer its datafeeds trough AMP(clearing). Do you have any updates on when we can expect to make the selection for your feed through AMP?
You can inquire with them about this now. This is only the Denali Exchange Data Feed available through them.

What's the lower cost option with Order Routing if ICE is needed?
For real-time ICE data you need to use this data feed:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SierraChartRealTimeFuturesStockDataFeed.php
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-03 01:38:58
[2019-09-03 01:40:41]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
When renewing my subscription for the Denali data feed, I had to fill an agreement and sign it.
Ok, but do we have to do this every month?
Additional fields of information were needed to comply with CME rules. You will not need to do it again.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-03 01:41:01
[2019-09-03 02:34:58]
markyj - Posts: 4
Hey Guys,

Just catching up on this post. Looking at switching over from CQG to the Denali Data Feed. How is the EUREX capability for Denali coming along?

When using Denali can you still route using the Sierra Data Servers eg In Singapore etc?

Thanks
[2019-09-03 03:32:02]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
No EUREX is not offered with the Denali exchange data feed.


When using Denali can you still route using the Sierra Data Servers eg In Singapore etc?
You are referring to the Sierra Chart order routing service:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SierraChartOrderRoutingServiceWithData.php

A server in Singapore is supported for order routing.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-03 03:32:48
[2019-09-03 04:38:51]
markyj - Posts: 4
Thanks for the reply.

Any plans to include EUREX in the future or is the cost not worth it?
[2019-09-03 10:02:25]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
No this was definitely decided against for the time being. Our time is better spent on other things rather than struggling with the EUREX which is only used by a small percentage of the user base. We may work with Barchart to offer a better version of the EUREX data feed.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-03 10:02:45
[2019-09-03 11:33:59]
User379468 - Posts: 165

Can you offer delayed streaming ICE quotes with Denali/the lower cost option?
[2019-09-04 09:20:45]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Not with the Denali data feed. We will have to see if that can be done with the Sierra Chart Exchange Data Feed. This would have to be allowed by ICE. They do have tight market data rules.
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[2019-09-04 18:25:56]
User837393 - Posts: 17
Additional fields of information were needed to comply with CME rules. You will not need to do it again.

I'm not sure I fully understand. Do I have have to provide my Interactive Broker Trading Account number ? This is new that we have to provide such a sensitive information.

These ate the fields that I see requested in the form.

Trading Account Number => Realy ??

Clearing Firm => No sure what this is ?

Name of Salesperson at the broker / FCM => Same here ... I have no particular person I'm dealing with.

Signed
[2019-09-05 00:44:57]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Yes. We have been requested to get the trading account number. If you do not want to provide it, then discontinue the data feed. This is not negotiable. We have to comply with the rules. We do not like them but it is not up to us. This information is made available to our provider of the CME data, the vendor of record. And provided to the CME.

Clearing firm in your case would be Interactive Brokers. For the salesperson just put the name of the brokerage.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-05 00:47:21
[2019-09-05 01:21:06]
User837393 - Posts: 17
Yes. We have been requested to get the trading account number. If you do not want to provide it, then discontinue the data feed. This is not negotiable. We have to comply with the rules. We do not like them but it is not up to us. This information is made available to our provider of the CME data, the vendor of record. And provided to the CME.

Clearing firm in your case would be Interactive Brokers. For the salesperson just put the name of the brokerage.

Is this only for the Denali data feed or is this applicable for the Sierra Chart Data feed as well?
[2019-09-05 01:35:51]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Only for the Denali Exchange Data Feed.
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[2019-09-11 18:45:05]
Robt1975 - Posts: 2
Sierra Chart order routing is not available for Interactive Brokers?
[2019-09-11 18:52:24]
User390455 - Posts: 7
SierraChart Order routing is TT Order Routing.
IB use only IB order Routing (IB is all in One system)
TT or CGG is routing for a lot of brokers.

But you can user Denial DataFeed with IB is great.
[2019-09-11 18:56:55]
User837393 - Posts: 17
Does that mean with dont get fill as per what we place for order on sierra chart ?
[2019-09-11 19:15:29]
User390455 - Posts: 7
If you use
SierraChart With the Broker IB (SierraChart use IB TWS (or IB API) who USE IB Routing Who use IB Broker)
SierraChart with SierraChart Order Rounting and the Broker AMP (SierraChart Use TT Order Routing who use AMP Broker)
SierraChart with CQG and the Broker ironbeam (SierraChart Use CQG Order Routing who use Ironbean Broker)

You can use IB with SierraCharts but only with a bridge IB TWS or IB API who use only IB Order Routing.

(If i make a mistake SierraChats support can correct me.)
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2019-09-11 19:19:16
[2019-09-11 19:26:09]
User138602 - Posts: 126
Just as an additional note:

As far as i understand, SC will offer a trading journal feature in the hopefully not so distant future. This will be based on SC order routing data. Something to think about. Maybe this will get a fully fleshed out feature.

But i guess if you have a really BIG trading account, almost nothing beats IB in terms of safety. As a broker they really have an eye on cutomers leveraged positions. Therefore they will go bust as one of the very last brokers, afaik.
[2019-09-12 04:00:21]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
If there any outstanding questions among the recent posts above, let us know.
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[2019-09-12 06:55:39]
NotIll - Posts: 24
Post 96:

''As far as i understand, SC will offer a trading journal feature in the hopefully not so distant future.''

Whats the info about this?
[2019-09-12 07:32:29]
markyj - Posts: 4
Also what are the exact differences between the Sierra Data Feed and Denali Data Feed other than exchanges available.

Are they both Market By Order (MBO) data and contain features like estimated position in queue, trade order id etc...

Are they both the same in accuracy in terms of market depth and time to recalculate orders etc?

Thanks
[2019-09-12 07:46:06]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
There is no difference between the two data feeds other than the exchanges.
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[2019-09-12 08:42:44]
markyj - Posts: 4
Ok thanks.

Just wanted to check as in post #66 this was commented on.

"Yes. And actually it is probably better but in general the same."
[2019-09-12 08:45:42]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 76297
Yes it is the same, but the connectivity for the CME multicast feeds is through a different provider which is always regarded as better, but from an end-user perspective it does not matter.
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