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Moving Orders Using the Chart Trading Shortcut Menu
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| [2018-06-27 17:33:17] |
| User501309 - Posts: 6 |
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I have setup the Chart Shortcut Menu with "Move Targets to Price" and "Move Attached Stops to Price". This works fine in sim mode when I have executed a multi contract trade since in sim mode the multiple contract order is executed at once and the resulting attached target and stop is also a single order. The problem I have is when not in sim mode a multi contract trade is usually filled as multiple fills and that results in multiple target and stop orders. When trying to for example move the targets (or stops) using the right-click menu option it will only move one of the open orders (even if all the open targets or stops are at a single price), leaving the remaining orders at the original price. Is there a setting or fix for this issue? |
| [2018-06-27 19:07:43] |
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From what we see, your technical explanation as to the reason for the problem really cannot be correct. There must be some other explanation. Let's first look at Move Targets to Price. Only Attached Orders which are in an "Open" status will be modified. Do these other orders which are not modified, not have this status? Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2018-06-27 19:20:03] |
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Also you have logged into this Support Board with an expired account. Only login with Help >> Support Board so we can understand what service you are using. And these orders must have been entered from Sierra Chart otherwise this functionality cannot possibly work. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2018-06-27 19:34:27] |
| User501309 - Posts: 6 |
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Thanks for the reply, The attached 'open' orders is exactly my problem, Just for example > I place a limit order below the market to open 5 contracts with attached targets and stops. The market comes down to my price and executes all 5 contracts but the now open Long position was the result of five 1 lot trades. This gives me 5 separate target orders and 5 separate stop orders. When I try to "Move Targets to Price" only one of the 5 open orders is moved to the new target price. re: expired account. I don't know what that's about. I originally had a trial account, after the trial I had my broker (AMP) activate SC for trading. Love the platform, I'm here to stay. |
| [2018-06-27 20:09:38] |
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This gives me 5 separate target orders and 5 separate stop orders. This does not make sense. How do you come to this conclusion?Unless you originally set up 5 targets on the Targets tab of the Trade Window. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2018-06-27 21:18:19] |
| User501309 - Posts: 6 |
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There are simply separate open orders on the chart at my intended stop and target price (as a result of the initial order being completed). It would seem to me that this occurred due to my limit order being filled by multiple trades. If for example I want to Buy a 5 lot position in NQ at 7005.00 and my attached orders are for a 20 tick stop and a 20 tick target I will have 5 separate 1 lot stop orders appearing on my screen at 7000.00 and 5 separate target orders at 7010.00 sometimes. Sometimes there will be a 2 lot and a 3 lot stop (and target)... or any other combination of 'five' possible. Sometimes there will be just one single 5 lot stop and target. I assumed that this was due to how the 5 lot limit order was filled, even if only some milliseconds apart they can be filled by different traders with different orders. I trade with AMP futures via CQG if that makes any difference. So with multiple Stop (and Target) orders sitting at one price it seems the "Move attached stops to price" or "Move Targets to Price" will only move one of the open stop (or target) orders. |
| [2018-06-27 21:32:30] |
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Okay if what you are saying is really true, we are not sure why this would be the case at all. This makes no technical sense. There should only be one target and stop order. When you see this happen, provide us these details requested here: Trade Activity Log Analysis: Support Assisted Trade Activity Log Analysis Just ignore the part about the cost. That does not apply in this case. Actually, thinking about this some more, this is totally unbelievable. There must be some explanation for this. We can't even believe we are even looking into something like this. We have no idea what this is all about. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-06-27 21:36:45
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| [2018-06-27 21:40:51] |
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Also disable this option if you are using it: Global Trade Settings Windows: Use Server Side Bracket Orders (if supported) (Global Settings >> General Trade Settings >> General) If this is actually the cause of the problem we are going to pull this for CQG. This is crazy behavior. Assuming it is what you are saying. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2018-06-28 14:34:53] |
| User501309 - Posts: 6 |
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Turning off Server Side bracket orders seems to have solved the issue. Many Thanks.
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| [2018-06-28 15:06:01] |
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Okay that is what we thought. So apparently CQG is generating additional orders when there are partial fills of the parent order. While they probably want to do that in order to maintain the same position in queue for the earlier orders, that really is very confusing and we do not think that is a good idea. At least there is an explanation. As you can tell, we were quite surprised about this whole thing. Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-06-28 15:06:24
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