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[2018-07-28 14:00:27]
ertrader - Posts: 636
Great to hear!
A few updates:
1) Update to Mint Linux 19 went without any issues. Performance still excellent.
2) Due to 3X margin requirements on IB IRA accounts, I've moved to FuturePath Trading. They work with ADMIS and I've moved to SC's CTS configuration. This also eliminated the need for an additional application running on my PC (TWS) TWS Linux worked fine but others (TT, Rithmic) were not playing as nice with Linux. The CTS configuration completely eliminates the need for them and is working perfectly.
3) Click and drag is working now
4) Using SC 1781 64 bit. No compiling issues
5) I use Libreoffice as well and is an EXCELLENT office package

https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/CTS_T4.php#SetupInstructionsForAdvancedLowCostConnectionModel

One issue that has been in SC, when replaying, after the first Replay attempt, the speed pull-down menu blanks out and Replay will not work. The first attempt works fine, but I have to restart SC to get it working again.

User106072..do you see this same behavior in Ubuntu? This has been the case as long as I've been working with SC on Mint Linux. I keep hoping the next version of Wine will fix it but not yet.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-07-28 14:05:44
[2018-07-29 08:17:09]
User921987 - Posts: 230
User106072..do you see this same behavior in Ubuntu? This has been the case as long as I've been working with SC on Mint Linux. I keep hoping the next version of Wine will fix it but not yet.

Not happening for me. I can start/pause/stop Replay and change the speed without any problems.The speed change can be done while Replay is active or not.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-07-29 08:18:07
[2018-07-29 11:22:21]
AlexPereira - Posts: 195
Probably people already noticed, but for some months now, the tradewindow problem has disappeared ( closing and opening tradewindow more than once )
[2018-08-17 18:57:59]
ertrader - Posts: 636
Thanks user User106072.

Support... I know you do not yet support Linux and no need to respond. However, if you at some point review the Replay code, On Mint Linux 18-19/Wine 3.02, After running replay one time, close the menu, then try to run again, The speed box pull down is blank. Note, the first time it runs fine... it is only when you close the replay box and try to replay again.

Exiting SC and restarting SC enables it to run again.
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[2018-08-17 21:13:41]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Gradually this is going to get resolved. But probably not for about six months from now.
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[2018-08-22 14:22:33]
ganz - Posts: 1048
SC Support
it might make some sense to separate gui/client part and headless/server part
imo, it will be cool to be able to interact with cross platform server part independently for data receiving and trading using any prog lang

and gui/client part might be wine compatible waiting for a toolkit you will trust or will be able to use
[2018-10-29 00:22:23]
ganz - Posts: 1048
https://newsroom.ibm.com/2018-10-28-IBM-To-Acquire-Red-Hat-Completely-Changing-The-Cloud-Landscape-And-Becoming-Worlds-1-Hybrid-Cloud-Provider

it looks like the end of a linux as a desktop
[2018-10-29 06:23:14]
User921987 - Posts: 230
ganz this is completely a false statement :) The Linux desktop usage is measured by the kernel development, number of the desktop providers and their developments and of course the condition of the X system itself.

Redhat is just one of the distros out of the many many others.

Please follow/see these sources:

https://www.kernel.org/
https://www.slant.co/topics/343/~best-linux-desktop-environments
https://www.x.org/wiki/
https://www.techradar.com/news/best-linux-distro
[2018-10-29 06:58:47]
ganz - Posts: 1048
User106072
Redhat is just one of the distros out of the many many others
lol

you are completely ignorant. so you better be quiet thnx.
[2018-10-29 10:36:19]
ganz - Posts: 1048
it looks like the end of a linux as a desktop
Samsung Open-Source Group Reportedly Shuts Down

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Samsung-Open-Source-Closes

Samsung OSG has contributed very heavily to the development of Wayland as well as some X.Org components, Cairo, Enlightenment EFL, the LLVM Clang compiler, GStreamer, FFmpeg, the Linux kernel, and other related code-bases that helped benefit Samsung's open-source/Linux needs across their wide portfolio of products from smart watches to refrigerators.
This may be especially hard-hitting for Wayland considering they were heavily contributing upstream and OSG employees often served as release managers.

[2018-10-29 11:03:52]
User921987 - Posts: 230
lol
you are completely ignorant. so you better be quiet thnx.

Haha. You never know who you're talking to. But thank you very much for your well reasoned and constructive opinion.

But as it allways is just watch and learn.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-10-29 11:10:15
[2018-10-30 02:46:14]
ganz - Posts: 1048
User106072
1. RH was the main actor to provide gtk+ and gnome. It was accepted by industry as the main and only solution to deal with.
2. CentOS/RHEL are the only production ready LTS distro with 10 to 14 years
3. Most of linux distros are using unstable libs and progs
4. A lot of them are useing ubuntu. ubuntu had dropped unity 7/8 and near to bancruptcy
5. X Server has legacy base and has no full control to deal with. Links and info were provided here on this forum.
6. Qt5 has a lot of bugs, it's slow and heavy.
7. https://www.cnet.com/news/ibm-sells-its-x86-server-business-to-lenovo-for-2-3-billion/

No matter how many distros are presented. None of them have stable libs, stable production history and predictable future to deal with.
Redhat is just one of the distros out of the many many others.
Only some ignorant clowns are in the position to shout out all that foollness. They do nothing and know even less.
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-10-30 04:18:30
[2018-10-30 06:29:58]
User921987 - Posts: 230
ganz
From your 1 liners I wasn't able to quess right the reasons for your opinions. But thanks to your clarifications now I think I do. So you're talking about the development support not the situation where 1 distro out of many others may disappear or change.

Yes, Redhat has been a strong contributor in the Linux industry which also have been a reason why many others have not been. Now depending on what the IBM will do in the future this new situation will possible change only the dynamics: Will there be a new strong developer or is it replaced by the numerous smaller communities.

So it is now very clear for all of us that your opinion is that there will be no more development in the desktops because IBM aquired Redhat.

This is where I disagree with you totally and say it is a false statement.

Linux desktops will not disappear. The Linux industry will patch up the situation IF the IBM will not continue what Redhat has been doing. This kind of situation would and will be a great opportunity for many others.

Just watch.

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We are fortunate we have this great piece of software called SierraChart. It has been around a very long time. Decades. Let's hope this situation will continue and after 5 or 10 years we can come back and see which one of our opinions were right :D

Happy trading !
the Clown
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-10-31 05:40:25
[2018-10-30 06:39:38]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Well maybe we will be big enough at some point, to take over some of this operating system development and do it right. We think that may come at some point.

And this is really not too much of a stretch, we already have in our active development plans and have partially started the development of voice, video, chat communication, screen sharing, and remote control functionality. All of this is going to be part of Sierra Chart.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-10-30 06:42:35
[2018-10-30 06:40:27]
ganz - Posts: 1048
User106072
Will there be a new strong developer or is it replaced by the numerous smaller communities.
I'm in since 1993 so i'm sure it'll not happen.

The Linux industry will patch up the situation IF the IBM will not continue what Redhat has been doing.
RH was the only industrial one and this is the core of the problem.
[2018-10-30 06:42:52]
ganz - Posts: 1048
SC Support

Yes. This will be cool to get complete Hard'n'Soft trading solution . :)
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-10-30 06:44:13
[2018-10-30 06:44:34]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Okay good. And some of our new developers are Russian as well.
Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level

Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy:
https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation

For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, *change* to the Teton service:
Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing
[2018-10-30 06:48:30]
ganz - Posts: 1048
SC Support

be careful
don't allow them to interfere of your choices

:))
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-10-30 06:52:18
[2018-10-30 07:16:46]
User921987 - Posts: 230
ganz

I'm in since 1993 so i'm sure it'll not happen.
Well. I did a 30 year career in the system and low level programming starting from 1981. I did 3 very succesfull corporate level software business during that time. I also have been using Linux in different situations from early '90. I am now retired and the latest 7 years I've been developing and using proprietary trading systems.

So I think I also have a some kind of understanding and experience about these things.


RH was the only industrial one and this is the core of the problem.

I personally do not see this as a "problem". Companies come and go. If it was the kernel or x.org which was acquired then I would be a bit scary what will happen.

But not now.

There will be a new situation and something new will happen. But first we have to learn what the IBM is doing with it's new puppy. Then we will see how the industry will react and what then happens.

Yours
the Clown
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-10-30 07:28:08
[2018-10-30 07:23:53]
User921987 - Posts: 230
SC support
Well maybe we will be big enough at some point, to take over some of this operating system development and do it right. We think that may come at some point.
Going to operating system level in SierraChart would change the whole thing. Big step but done properly would and will be a game changer. Definitely !
--- EDIT
Imagine you could boot directly to the trading environment tuned up for the trading only. Safe and stable environment with low latencies. What a great idea !!
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-10-30 07:33:54
[2018-10-30 07:31:58]
ganz - Posts: 1048
User106072
I personally do not see this as a "problem".
Linux community are waiting for stable linux desktop to get rid of windoze for years
so this is a big problem for me and thousands of people.
[2018-10-30 07:45:02]
User921987 - Posts: 230
ganz
Linux community are waiting for stable linux desktop to get rid of windoze for years
so this is a big problem for me and thousands of people
I and my buddies have had no problems for years with the stability of X so I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe Gnome or other resource eaters can have these problems but haven't liked or used those Windows wannabes ever.

And fundamentally if Redhad didn't do any help in stable linux desktops for years for you or your 1000s of people then there is no harm done if they now go :)
Date Time Of Last Edit: 2018-10-30 08:24:38
[2018-10-30 10:51:14]
ganz - Posts: 1048
User106072
Most of your sentences are meaningless in order to get non-windows environment for SC.
So my opinion is still the same. You need to talk less.
[2018-10-30 22:31:15]
ganz - Posts: 1048
6. Qt5 has a lot of bugs, it's slow and heavy.
Release Notes for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.6
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html/7.6_release_notes/chap-red_hat_enterprise_linux-7.6_release_notes-deprecated_functionality
KDE has been deprecated
KDE Plasma Workspaces (KDE), which has been provided as an alternative to the default GNOME desktop environment has been deprecated.
A future major release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux will no longer support using KDE instead of the default GNOME desktop environment.

[2018-10-31 03:48:42]
ganz - Posts: 1048
Obviously some big players like Oracle and HP are fully disappointed by this new reality. (in case it will be done)
So KDE/Qt and Mir might be repaired to the production ready state around Debian ecosystem.

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