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1X0 and 0X1 prints generated by Numbers Bars on Renko Charts

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[2017-03-29 16:56:30]
Zosimus - Posts: 345
As seen on the attached chart the numbers bars study generates many 0X1 and 1X0 prints on Renko charts. To my understanding it is unlikely to get so many such prints and they do not reflect the real orderflow at those prices. The problem is that it also causes many imbalance signals (diagonal comparison signals) that are not real too. I guess it has to do with the way Sierra builds the Renko bars. I hope this can be changed.
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[2017-03-29 17:03:33]
Japhro - Posts: 120
+1 this has been an issue for ages, I'm not sure if it's related to how Sierra builds the start/finish of the bar, or otherwise ?
[2017-03-29 17:05:34]
fuzzy - Posts: 7
+1
[2017-03-29 17:05:55]
User376086 - Posts: 3
+1

Fully agree.

Been suffering in silence

no more
[2017-03-29 18:23:31]
User48838 - Posts: 112
+1
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[2017-03-29 18:24:30]
User48838 - Posts: 112
+1 thanks
[2017-03-29 19:59:05]
User890892 - Posts: 1
+1
[2017-03-30 17:04:40]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This will be looked into as soon as we can.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2017-03-30 17:05:01
[2017-04-10 22:26:22]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
We are still working on this and hope to get this out today.
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[2017-04-11 07:58:11]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This problem is now resolved in 1542.

Let us know if you see any further issue.
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[2017-04-11 18:51:22]
Zosimus - Posts: 345
The 1x0 problem seems to be resolved but when I look at the bars they do not look like correct Renko bars.
Attached is an image of a 5t Renko bars chart. One example of a bar that seems wrong to me is shown on the image.
As far as undersdand (and as seen in this image from the SC documentation of Renko bar charts) https://www.sierrachart.com/images/RenkoBars.png - A renko bar will always open either at the open or the close price of the previous bar. As seen in the attached image this not the case with my renko chart.
Prerelease 1542 (But I dont think this issue started at 1542).
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[2017-04-11 20:31:03]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Numbers Bars show the true Open and Close values. Not the Renko Open and Close. Refer to:
Renko Bar Charts: Renko Open, High, Low, Close Values
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2017-04-11 20:32:10
[2017-04-11 20:38:56]
Zosimus - Posts: 345
Thanks for the fast reply.
As you can see on the attached regular (Not numbers bars) 5t Renko chart the same problem persists. Bars open at the middle of the previous bars body/brick. This only seem to happen on trend reversal bars. The trend continuation bars are good.
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[2017-04-11 21:24:37]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This is what we were concerned with the change that was made and there was going to be some further analysis we were going to be doing today related to this to make sure everything is working as expected.

For now we have to revert this change. The Renko bars was worked on by another developer that is no longer with us. At this point we just have to rebuild the Renko code from scratch and organize it differently.

Allow about 60 days for this. This is just yet another thing, which is setting us back with our development schedule.

One thing to keep in mind is the particular price level that you see that has 1 | 0 or 0 | 1, can just be ignored. It is only a single trade.
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Date Time Of Last Edit: 2017-04-11 21:28:35
[2017-04-11 21:28:24]
Zosimus - Posts: 345
ok.
I truely appreciate your efforts and respect your development schedule.
[2017-04-12 15:54:42]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
This issue is resolved in 1543. Follow the instructions here to update:
Software Download: Fast Update
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[2017-04-12 17:19:40]
Zosimus - Posts: 345
Looks correct now.
[2017-10-10 10:00:28]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
Letting you know Renko bars have been rebuilt in prerelease 1622. There still is additional work we need to do and Flex Renko bars are not yet implemented.

We should have all of the development done by next week.
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[2017-10-30 20:54:34]
Sierra Chart Engineering - Posts: 104368
There were some problems with the initial rebuild of Renko bars that was most noticeable when using the Numbers Bars Study. This is now all resolved, in version 1630 and higher.

There is one to two additional details we are still looking into today and will address, but these are only small details. Not likely anything that would be noticeable.
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