Support Board
Date/Time: Wed, 19 Aug 2026 02:33:11 +0000
AMP Global - CQG or Teton for EA ACSIL System
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| [2026-07-02 05:20:31] |
| User186850 - Posts: 17 |
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Hello Team I have an AMP Global Account and have CQG/Denali for my Sierra Chart setup, presently. Sierra explicitly recommends Teton (Sierra Chart’s own order routing) over CQG for CME: Teton supports true server-side bracket orders — the stop rests at the server and survives if Sierra/PC drops connection. Is this correct? In order to have the greatest security and speed with which orders are placed should I go to Teton. I want to mitigate order failure in the event of data disconnection so that a position is never naked without a stop. I am setting up an EA in Sierra using ACSIL. Could you please advise how such a change may impact functionality and pricing? I would need direction and how to change it. If you could check out my current plan settings for context of what before and after should look like, that would be appreciated. Many thank you Ben |
| [2026-07-02 05:26:54] |
| User186850 - Posts: 17 |
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I gained this information from Claude: Teton still relays your per-bar stop modifications, so your trailing keeps working. (Plain server-side brackets on a non-intermediary broker would freeze your trail — the opposite problem.)
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| [2026-07-02 15:32:26] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 47538 |
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We are not certain exactly what your question is. If you are asking if there are any package/data changes you need for a custom study, the answer is "none". There are no restrictions on the use of a custom study based on a package. You would just need to ensure that you have what you need in order to get the data that you want. For instance, if you are wanting to process Market by Order information, then you would need to be on Package 12 and you would need data that includes the Market Depth data. With regards to order routing services, it is correct that with Teton that "trailing" orders are kept on our servers and modified there, as opposed to the updates being done on your local Sierra Chart with other order routing services. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2026-07-02 15:46:42] |
| User186850 - Posts: 17 |
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Thanks John. I am setting up a trading robot in Sierra using ACSIL. I am concerned about data loss associated with a naked position if internet or Sierra disconnects and having the wrong service package setup. I'll be more specific. Subject: Does a Teton attached stop remain working server‑side if my Sierra Chart client disconnects? I run an automated ACSIL study (current Sierra Chart version) that scales into a futures position and protects it with a single attached stop order, which the study reprices with ModifyOrder on each bar to trail it. I currently route AMP + CQG Web API with Denali data, and I'm moving to Teton Order Routing specifically because I need the protective stop to survive a data/connection loss. My concern is risk of ruin if my Sierra Chart instance loses its data feed or internet, or the VPS/PC shuts down, while a position is open. Please confirm: With Teton Order Routing, is a stop order — including an attached stop submitted and modified by an ACSIL study — held server‑side (at Teton/the exchange), so it remains working and will execute if my Sierra Chart client disconnects, loses data, or the machine goes down? When my study modifies that stop each bar, does each accepted modification leave a working server‑side stop at the latest price — i.e., if I disconnect immediately after a modify, does the most recently accepted stop level stay live and execute at Teton? Does Teton support server‑side OCO/bracket (stop + target) orders that survive a disconnect, and if so what must I enable? Does Teton offer a native server‑side trailing stop order type (so trailing continues while my client is offline), or only static stops my client must keep updating? What order settings are required for the stop to persist through a disconnect — GTC vs Day, any "server side" flag, specific order types, or Teton/CME configuration? Does Teton or Sierra provide any server‑side risk management / auto‑liquidation that would flatten an open position if my client stays disconnected? I want the exact configuration that guarantees a resting protective stop executes even with my client fully offline. Thank you. |
| [2026-07-02 16:10:01] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 47538 |
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With Teton Order Routing, is a stop order — including an attached stop submitted and modified by an ACSIL study — held server‑side (at Teton/the exchange), so it remains working and will execute if my Sierra Chart client disconnects, loses data, or the machine goes down?
A standard Stop (or Stop-Limit) is held on the exchange. This will be true with any order routing service. Special stop orders (such as Trailing Stop) will be on our servers and processed on our servers for a Teton connection. For other order routing services, this would not be case, so your local Sierra Chart would need to be running in order to update the order with each change. But, you state that you are modifying the order using your custom study, therefore, each update occurs only on your local Sierra Chart, where your study is running, and then the updated Stop order is sent to the exchange. As such, the order routing service does not come into play at all. When my study modifies that stop each bar, does each accepted modification leave a working server‑side stop at the latest price — i.e., if I disconnect immediately after a modify, does the most recently accepted stop level stay live and execute at Teton?
As noted above, with any order routing service, the last modification will be at the exchange. Does Teton support server‑side OCO/bracket (stop + target) orders that survive a disconnect, and if so what must I enable?
Teton supports server side OCO/Brackets. There is nothing special you need to do, this is always the way it works. Does Teton offer a native server‑side trailing stop order type (so trailing continues while my client is offline), or only static stops my client must keep updating?
There are built-in trailing stop orders within Sierra Chart. As noted above, if using one of these with Teton, then the trailing will continue to process even if your local Sierra Chart is not connected. Refer to the following for a "Trailing Stop", but review the other order types that are available: Order Types: Trailing Stop What order settings are required for the stop to persist through a disconnect — GTC vs Day, any "server side" flag, specific order types, or Teton/CME configuration?
There is nothing that needs to be done with this for Teton. The "Time in Force" has nothing to do with this. Choose the "Time in Force" you want based on your needs. Although the CME Group only accepts "Day" and "Good tile Cancelled". Does Teton or Sierra provide any server‑side risk management / auto‑liquidation that would flatten an open position if my client stays disconnected?
No. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2026-07-02 16:44:31] |
| User186850 - Posts: 17 |
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Thanks John. Is the ACSIL default for attached orders Good till cancelled?
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| [2026-07-02 17:18:23] |
| User186850 - Posts: 17 |
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I also saw this question below in a support board threat from 2024 and a Sierra Engineer said would look into it but haven't found the response - Id like to know what the margin differences are please. "while you're at it, can you ask AMP why they've implemented higher margins for just Teton during the overnight session whereas other routing services like CQG, Rithmic, TT get to enjoy much lower margins?" Date Time Of Last Edit: 2026-07-02 17:18:48
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| [2026-07-02 20:26:24] |
| John - SC Support - Posts: 47538 |
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Is the ACSIL default for attached orders Good till cancelled?
ACSIL does not have a "default". If you do not define it within the ACSIL order structure, then it will pick up whatever is set in the Trade Window. The "default" for the trade window (having never changed them since the installation of Sierra Chart) is "Day" for parent orders and "Good til Cancelled" for attached orders. I also saw this question below in a support board threat from 2024 and a Sierra Engineer said would look into it but haven't found the response - Id like to know what the margin differences are please.
"while you're at it, can you ask AMP why they've implemented higher margins for just Teton during the overnight session whereas other routing services like CQG, Rithmic, TT get to enjoy much lower margins?" We can't answer this. You would need to ask AMP why they have done this. But since it was 2024, they may have changed their margins. For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
| [2026-07-03 05:46:41] |
| User186850 - Posts: 17 |
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Thank you, will Sierra Chart updates potentially impact the ACSIL formula and need periodic updating concurrently? Is there a current precedent on how often ACSIL needs updating with previous Sierra chart updates. I would like to know if this needs to be done every month to avoid an error and improper EA trading.
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| [2026-07-03 21:40:29] |
| Sierra_Chart Engineering - Posts: 24598 |
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If you need to rebuild the ACSIL custom studies for a newer version of Sierra Chart, the version that begins with will be specified here: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/Whats_New.php Sierra Chart Support - Engineering Level Your definitive source for support. Other responses are from users. Try to keep your questions brief and to the point. Be aware of support policy: https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?l=PostingInformation.php#GeneralInformation For the most reliable, advanced, and zero cost futures order routing, use the Teton service: Sierra Chart Teton Futures Order Routing |
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